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Old 08-04-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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Everyday is new lies from conservatives.

Yesterday someone told me the western states were not on fire. The smoke in the air was actually the US government spraying vaccine so people would breath it in.

This is the kind of propaganda that scares the crap out of the ignorant and uneducated. The same people that are sending Trump a few dollars at the time to the tune of $100 million total.

It is so absurd as to be unbelievable but unfortunately it goes on every day.
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Houston
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That might be a fact here on this website, but the reality of whom is not vaccinating across the country is completely different. Many of posted the facts , just because you've chosen to ignore them doesn't make it not true.
The point is the perception of Republicans being antivaxxers is due to the conspiracy wackos on the right, not the mainstream media
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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The point is the perception of Republicans being antivaxxers is due to the conspiracy wackos on the right, not the mainstream media
And the conspiracy wackos are but a small portion of our population. The perception stems from those that have to find anyway they can to hate a group of people because they voted differently, because they need to blame them for a pandemic that no one could have controlled and because they think differently from them. It's fueled by social media, websites like this, and either ignorance or hate.

The facts have been presented over and over again, and people, such as yourself refuse to believe them.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:07 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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People keep blaming trump, and he deserves about 60% of the Blame, The rest of the Blame should be put on Russian Misinformation campaign and the stupid people that keep believing it because, it fits their Narrative.
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:31 AM
 
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There is data that shows counties that voted for Biden have higher Covid-19 vaccination rates than counties that voted for Trump. The data is broken down, not by state, but county. And that makes a bigger difference.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the...es-is-growing/

Polls have been done on this subject as well.
https://www.usnews.com/news/the-repo...litical-divide

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Pollsters, accustomed to asking such quaint queries as "Do you support such-and-such?" and "Do you think the country is headed in the right direction or wrong direction?" are now posing questions they never imagined they'd ask – or have to ask.

For Robert Jones, CEO and founder of the research group PRRI, the survey question came in April, when the group – which examines the intersection of religion, politics and culture – asked whether people agreed that "the COVID-19 vaccine contains a surveillance microchip that is the sign of the beast in biblical prophecy."

"As a survey researcher and social scientist, that's a question I wrote that I never thought I'd put on paper," Jones says. But as it happens, 9% agreed and another 16% only "mostly" disagreed. Jones also has recently asked respondents if they believe that government, the financial community and the media are "controlled by Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex-trafficking operation." Turns out, 15% of Americans (and 23% of Republicans) think that's the case.

YouGov, another polling operation, asked a similar question this month about the COVID vaccine. Nearly a third (32%) of Republicans believe the vaccine is a tool for the government to implant microchips, compared to 14% of Democrats and 18% of independents who ascribe to the bizarre (and dangerous) theory. About two-thirds (65%) of Democrats and less than a third (32%) of Republicans believe the theory is "definitely false."
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:37 AM
 
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People keep blaming trump, and he deserves about 60% of the Blame, The rest of the Blame should be put on Russian Misinformation campaign and the stupid people that keep believing it because, it fits their Narrative.
So how much percentage of the blame goes to China for making a bat virus infectious to humans and then having such horrible quality control at the lab it leaked and instead of trying to mitigate the spread they actually allowed it to spread all over the globe?

How much percentage of blame goes to other world leaders that had Covid outbreaks?
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:39 AM
 
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There is data that shows counties that voted for Biden have higher Covid-19 vaccination rates than counties that voted for Trump. The data is broken down, not by state, but county. And that makes a bigger difference.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the...es-is-growing/

Polls have been done on this subject as well.
https://www.usnews.com/news/the-repo...litical-divide
Quite the opposite here in Michigan. The city of Detroit has the least amount of vaccinated of the entire state, rural Trump country included.

And just look at the numbers.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021...-vaccinations/
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Houston
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And the conspiracy wackos are but a small portion of our population. The perception stems from those that have to find anyway they can to hate a group of people because they voted differently, because they need to blame them for a pandemic that no one could have controlled and because they think differently from them. It's fueled by social media, websites like this, and either ignorance or hate.

The facts have been presented over and over again, and people, such as yourself refuse to believe them.
I didn't say I don't believe it.

The conspiracy wackos are very vocal and you don't do a damn thing to change the perception they create. Perceptions are many peoples realities at least when it comes to voting.

There's one other rightie, besides me and the doctors, who combat the lunacy of the right wing antivaxxers and that ain't you.

The pandemic could have certainly been controlled a lot better, by idiotic governors who put Covid-19 patients in nursing homes, by government bureaucrats who delayed testing and initiated the confusion on masks and the Trump administration which admittedly downplayed the dangers of the virus led by the moron in chief.

Let me also add that black reluctancy to get vaccinated goes back to historically being used as guinea pigs. Among Whites it's obvious Biden voters are getting vaccinated at a much higher rate than Trump voters.

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Old 08-04-2021, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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"Across nearly all states that have released demographic data, Black and Hispanic residents are getting vaccinated at lower rates than White people"

Also, younger people, in their 20's and 30's is another under vaccinated group.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021...-vaccinations/
Which throws water on the claims that the unvaccinated are mostly Trumpsters
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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Half the people are stupider than the other half. So of course they will believe what the television/CNN tells them to think. Even the smarter kind of American relies heavily on television to program them/tell them what to think.


Of course, the reality is democrats insisted Trump would not have a vaccine available at this time, yet his rollout was a complete success and totally proved them wrong and discredits anything they might think, say or believe

Not only that, they downright fear-mongered about the vaccines themselves; the very thing they now decry "anti-vaxxers" for doing.


Democratic fear-mongering about the coronavirus vaccine is working



https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2020/09/...orking-n349055

Hhhmmm....maybe the Democrats are the reason the majority of blacks and hispanics do not want to take the vaccine, since they scared people about it for months last year?


BTW, can we stop calling people who don't want to take a protein spiked MRNA experimental drug, "anti-vaxxers."?


Not really the same thing...


Personally I hedged my bets and went with the J & J, since it is a conventional vaccine. But by no means do I expect others to do exactly what I did - your body your choice.
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