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Old 02-28-2022, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Make student loan dischargeable debt through bankruptcy. I guarantee that cost of schools will drop overnight.


So, have the taxpayers continue foot the bill while students flip them off by declaring bankruptcy?

Uh......no.

 
Old 02-28-2022, 10:44 PM
 
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The government MAKING anything more affordable sounds like trouble to me. College is already affordable around here — community college is like $1500/semester.

The problem is that for the young person not living with parents is that rent has now skyrocketed…and the price of cars…and gas…and food.
 
Old 02-28-2022, 11:51 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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-Free quality community college. That will reduce 4-year college enrollment and cut the cost for the students.
-Push advance placement college credit courses for HS students. My daughter had a friend that graduated HS with over 20 college credits.
-Separate the instruction process in universities from other non-instruction activities like marginal research or old men simply thinking. Students should only pay for what they get.
-Of course, free tuition public four-year universities would be nice if it could be managed without taxpayers footing the bill for frat parties and sports teams.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Stop guaranteeing loans. End Social science degrees as not everyone belongs in college. Protect the value of the dollar.
Bingo.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 01:29 AM
 
Location: My house
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you mean universities with billions in endowments, sprawling campuses, massive athletes which have more to do with profits than education?

perhaps higher education for most studies could be online only eliminating the need for all the fluff. putting yourself in hundreds of thousands in debt to experience getting trashed in a frat house was never the point to higher education.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 01:33 AM
 
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Stop with the lie every kid needs a college education.

Most kids go there, get some worthless arts and humanities degree after partying for 4 years. Trade school is an option!
 
Old 03-01-2022, 03:37 AM
 
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Subsidize community college and trade schools, each state can make their own arrangements. A couple years of community college will ease the burden of getting a 4 year degree.
This. Treat 2 year programs/CC as a public good, like roads. It would go a long way. Combined with a modest amount of parent and student savings (529 or otherwise), the situation could be more sensible with a lot of people having $20k of loans or less, so that graduates can have a life instead of being crushed by debt.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Troy, NY
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Hmm, what can help colleges be more affordable?

How about not spending $3.5 million to build a 19,500-square-foot mansion for a president.

https://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-lo...no-6567116.php

Sure she is leaving later this year, but the money is gone.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 04:14 AM
 
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Pushing to go 2 yrs to a community college has been a thing for yrs. Unfortunately - it isn't that simple and parents and students have to do a lot of research. Students need to research what the transfer requirements are for each of the 4 yr schools they are interested in as articulation agreements vary per college. All credits may not be transferrable. A certain degree program may only allow so many transfer or none at all.

I know more kids who went this path and after graduating from the 2 yr - never went any farther. They took a low wage job where they are stuck. All of these kids should have been guided towards BOCES programs or internships - they weren't college material or had aspirations of getting degrees in low demand program like animation design. It's one thing to graduate with a degree in a field that you love and another finding a job in that field.

As far as cost - make these professors actually teach. Too many tenured have cut their class schedules, have TA's doing the work and teach BS courses.

Quit beautifying the schools to impress parents. We have cobblestone paths at Geneseo - beautiful to look at but every winter, they crack, break and become dislodged so every Spring - maintenance has to lay down new cobblestone.
 
Old 03-01-2022, 04:18 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The ability to refinance college dept to lower rate. Associates degree should be part of the public school system k-12 plus community college associate degree.
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