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Old 04-14-2022, 02:29 PM
 
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Drunk driving isn’t comparable to abortion neither is rape or murder.
Killing someone while driving drunk or texting and murder are exactly the same as abortion. All result in the death of a human.

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No woman in America should be forced to remain pregnant against her own wishes.
In 95% of unintended pregnancies, the woman voluntarily chose the possibility of pregnancy by participating in unprotected sex. The pregnancy is not against her wishes. It is what she herself chose to do with her body.

 
Old 04-14-2022, 02:42 PM
 
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Killing someone while driving drunk or texting and murder are exactly the same as abortion. All result in the death of a human.

In 95% of unintended pregnancies, the woman voluntarily chose the possibility of pregnancy by participating in unprotected sex. The pregnancy is not against her wishes. It is what she herself chose to do with her body.
Unprotected sex? Again so what? She can abort if she wants to, your subjective opinions matters not to the women who abort. You prefer forcing women to stay pregnant and give birth against their own wishes?
 
Old 04-14-2022, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Fetus means small baby.

What is a fetus, if it's not a baby? An acorn? A chicken? A pencil?

Oooooooh ... is it a diamond ring? A winning lottery ticket? Maybe I should get pregnant.

What is a fetus, if it's not a baby? ***crickets*** No answer. Just the sounds of ... Intellectual Dishonesty. Cognitive Dissonance.


Because a fetus is a baby.
IF that is true, then please explain to us why voters in Colorado and Mississippi refused to grant unborn babies full human rights beginning from the moment of conception?
 
Old 04-14-2022, 03:00 PM
 
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Unprotected sex? Again so what? She can abort if she wants to, your subjective opinions matters not to the women who abort.
Killing an innocent human is killing an innocent human. Some people have consistent ethics in this regard, others don't and prefer situational convenience, the well-being of any others be damned. What's even worse is that via abortion, 98.3% of the human lives killed are killed solely for the sake of convenience. That's beyond depraved.

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You prefer forcing women to stay pregnant and give birth against their own wishes?
It's not against their will. They, themselves voluntarily CHOSE to have unprotected sex. What did they think was going to happen as a result? Hmmm...? Let's see... The same thing that's been going on for the nearly 2 million years that humans have existed: unprotected sex causes pregnancy.
 
Old 04-14-2022, 03:12 PM
 
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Killing an innocent human is killing an innocent human. Some people have consistent ethics in this regard, others don't and prefer situational convenience, the well-being of any others be damned. What's even worse is that via abortion, 98.3% of the human lives killed are killed solely for the sake of convenience. That's beyond depraved.

It's not against their will. They, themselves voluntarily CHOSE to have unprotected sex. What did they think was going to happen as a result? Hmmm...? Let's see... The same thing that's been going on for the nearly 2 million years that humans have existed: unprotected sex causes pregnancy.
Sorry saying yes to sex isn’t saying yes to pregnancy and parenthood. Women get to control their reproduction anyway they see fit. Besides birth there’s adoption and abortion. Her choice.
 
Old 04-14-2022, 03:13 PM
 
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Of that 51%, 95% are the result of voluntary participation in unprotected sex. HOW do people NOT understand that an extremely high percentage of unintended pregnancies are VOLUNTARILY SELF-INFLICTED outcomes? And then they want to kill a human life on top of that because what they CHOSE for themselves isn't convenient? That's beyond depraved.

The other 5% consists of a combination of the failure of correctly used contraception methods and rape (which of course is not voluntary participation).

If we could get the unintended pregnancy due to voluntary unprotected sex rate down to even 50% of unintended pregnancies, that would reduce the total number of unintended pregnancies by 90% (5%+5%=10% of the previous total).
That's beyond depraved? Then what do you want to do to try to bring a stop to such depravity, since it concerns you so much? Ban all or nearly all abortions? Send a woman convicted of abortion to prison for 5 or more years? Of course, abortion doctors, too. What if the woman said he wouldn't wear a condom? Send him to prison, too?
 
Old 04-14-2022, 03:16 PM
 
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Sorry saying yes to sex isn’t saying yes to pregnancy and parenthood.
It is when a woman deliberately chooses to have unprotected sex. The fact that unprotected sex may very well likely result in pregnancy is no surprise to anyone. Like I said... The same thing has been going on for the nearly 2 million years that humans have existed: unprotected sex causes pregnancy.
 
Old 04-14-2022, 03:57 PM
 
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It is when a woman deliberately chooses to have unprotected sex. The fact that unprotected sex may very well likely result in pregnancy is no surprise to anyone. Like I said... The same thing has been going on for the nearly 2 million years that humans have existed: unprotected sex causes pregnancy.
Yes sex can cause pregnancy. The fact that men have generally have never bothered to mind their own sperm by using bc over the two million years, should tell you they are just as irresponsible. Men for millions of years engage in unprotected sex. You can’t regulate sex of others. The irresponsible, responsible. You women forced to give birth. What do you intend to make the man do, to atone for his transgressions?
 
Old 04-14-2022, 04:09 PM
 
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That's where you're wrong. In the real world, 95% of unintended pregnancies in the US are due to women's voluntary participation in unprotected sex. The result of unprotected sex is likely pregnancy. The women chose pregnancy for themselves. No one forced them to become pregnant.
Doesn't matter if they had unprotected sex or BC failed. If a woman becomes pregnant and you deny an abortion that she wants, you are forcing her to breed.

You personally may object to abortion, but the end result of denying the abortion is forcing the woman to breed.
 
Old 04-14-2022, 04:18 PM
 
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Doesn't matter if they had unprotected sex or BC failed. If a woman becomes pregnant and you deny an abortion that she wants, you are forcing her to breed.

You personally may object to abortion, but the end result of denying the abortion is forcing the woman to breed.
"forcing her to breed"?
Who is forcing her to have unprotected sex, other than rapists? Are you saying all men are rapists and are forcing women to have unprotected sex?
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