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Old 04-15-2022, 04:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
Yes sex can cause pregnancy. The fact that men have generally have never bothered to mind their own sperm by using bc over the two million years, should tell you they are just as irresponsible. Men for millions of years engage in unprotected sex. You can’t regulate sex of others. The irresponsible, responsible. You women forced to give birth. What do you intend to make the man do, to atone for his transgressions?
They pay child support for 18+ years. Child support payments are court-ordered throughout the US every court day.

 
Old 04-15-2022, 05:01 AM
 
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Doesn't matter if they had unprotected sex or BC failed. If a woman becomes pregnant and you deny an abortion that she wants, you are forcing her to breed.
Nope. She CHOSE to breed when she voluntarily participated in unprotected sex.

Unprotected sex has caused pregnancy in humans for all of the 2 million years humans have existed. That will never change. Make your choices accordingly.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 06:18 AM
 
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You keep pounding on people not using bc or using it correctly, like you might have a suggestion. The “experts” have plenty of suggestions but conservatives tend not to like sex ed, free birth control and social services to poor families.
And liberals seem to want to have everyone else take care of them from cradle to grave because they make idiotic, immature, irresponsible and just plan selfish decisions, as well as blame everyone else ...

(I didn't get sex ed! I didn't get fee BC! My welfare and SNAP and Section 8 and Head Start just isn't enough! I need more!!!!! Give me MORE MONEY!!!!! Because nothing is my fault and I should't have to support myself or anyone else!!!)

Shall we throw around more stereotypes?

Killing someone else just because you feel like it is WRONG.

No amount of posting and arguing will ever change that fact. The subsequent arguments are all smoke and mirrors.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 06:32 AM
 
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And liberals seem to want to have everyone else take care of them from cradle to grave because they make idiotic, immature, irresponsible and just plan selfish decisions, as well as blame everyone else ...

(I didn't get sex ed! I didn't get fee BC! My welfare and SNAP and Section 8 and Head Start just isn't enough! I need more!!!!! Give me MORE MONEY!!!!! Because nothing is my fault and I should't have to support myself or anyone else!!!)

Shall we throw around more stereotypes?

Killing someone else just because you feel like it is WRONG.

No amount of posting and arguing will ever change that fact. The subsequent arguments are all smoke and mirrors.
Exactly. It's all that killing (680,000 per year) solely for the sake of convenience that is so unconscionable.

Lefties raise a big stink about gun deaths but abortion kills 20 times more every year than guns do.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 06:38 AM
 
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Exactly. It's all that killing (680,000 per year) solely for the sake of convenience that is so unconscionable.

Lefties raise a big stink about gun deaths but abortion kills 20 times more every year than guns do.
Left doesn't care about innocent life, but they would love to take away everyone's guns.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 07:03 AM
 
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Left doesn't care about innocent life, but they would love to take away everyone's guns.
There are more guns (450 million) than people (330 million) in the US, yet guns kill only 1/20th the number abortion kills every year. And 2/3 of those gun deaths are suicides. Guns are used to kill only about 11,000 others each year making the stats comparison even worse.

Method used to kill another human (per year):

Guns: 11,000
Abortion: 680,000

We don't have a problem with our gun culture. The problem is our abortion culture.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 07:14 AM
 
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Democrats are for choice. Republicans just want to make it harder for women to have an abortion which means your states should be responsible for paying for their care. But we all have to pay because many need Medicare to survive which is a socialist program according to many.
Things are not always as black and white as this. There are some Democrats who are not comfortable with limitless abortion and there are some Republicans who are ok with abortion up to a point.

I think you mean Medicaid, not Medicare. Medicaid pays for parental care and postnatal care. Medicare is for seniors. You might b surprised that not all Republicans are against social safety nets.

I’d also add that Democrats as a whole are not pro choice, just pro abortion rights. They are very anti choice as a whole on other bodily types autonomy issues.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 07:20 AM
 
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Things are not always as black and white as this. There are some Democrats who are not comfortable with limitless abortion and there are some Republicans who are ok with abortion up to a point.

I think you mean Medicaid, not Medicare. Medicaid pays for parental care and postnatal care. Medicare is for seniors. You might b surprised that not all Republicans are against social safety nets.

I’d also add that Democrats as a whole are not pro choice, just pro abortion rights. They are very anti choice as a whole on other bodily types autonomy issues.
You should have left out your last paragraph. After nicely explaining how this is not a Republican/Democratic issue, you went on to gsneralize about what you think all Dems think.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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You should have left out your last paragraph. After nicely explaining how this is not a Republican/Democratic issue, you went on to gsneralize about what you think all Dems think.
"Democrats as a whole" ... you disagree?

Are you going on record as stating that the D party platform is not pro-abortion?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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They pay child support for 18+ years. Child support payments are court-ordered throughout the US every court day.
Lots of men don’t pay their child support or abandon the relationship when a pregnancy occurs. That’s one reason women abort.
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