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Originally Posted by ansible90
You SAY that both men and women should be responsible, but if it comes down to the man having a vasectomy, you look for excuses why men can't possibly do that. Effectively, that throws all the responsibility back on the woman. And no, condoms are not as reliable as vasectomies for birth control.
Good day.
Why do you believe men should have a vasectomy rather than using a condom, and maybe making sure the woman is also using some form of BC?
Why do you believe men should have a vasectomy rather than using a condom, and maybe making sure the woman is also using some form of BC?
I have no problem with those options. That was not the point of my discussion with that other poster. You can read it again if you care to. He was ready to take responsibility from the male side of things, until the discussion of vasectomies came up. Then he started looking for excuses to not support that option.
The reason I mentioned that condoms are not as reliable as vasectomies was to anticipate his next excuse.
If a large or somewhat large percentage of men got vasectomies, don't you think that would substantially cut down the number of unintended pregnancies?
You understand that WOMEN are the ones that get pregnant, right?
If women are having unprotected sex and/or not using birth control they know that they can get pregnant right?
Your idiotic idea that all men should have vasectomies doesn't change the fact that WOMEN are the ones that get pregnant. Again... you do know that right?
Be careful what you wish for. You want to 'punish' men because women refuse to take care of their own health.
P-ss poor idiot logic. The 'vasectomy' argument highlights what victims women are. Poor poor women, need men to protect them because they are too dumb / incapable to do it for themselves.
I have no problem with those options. That was not the point of my discussion with that other poster. You can read it again if you care to. He was ready to take responsibility from the male side of things, until the discussion of vasectomies came up. Then he started looking for excuses to not support that option.
The reason I mentioned that condoms are not as reliable as vasectomies was to anticipate his next excuse.
Lol. I never opposed a vasectomy. I simply proved that your claim that tubal ligation is more traumatic than a vasectomy is wrong.
No excuses here. Just proof…and that both men and women should both take responsibility.
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Originally Posted by ansible90
I have no problem with those options.
Actually, your postings prove that you do.
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That was not the point of my discussion with that other poster. You can read it again if you care to. He was ready to take responsibility from the male side of things, until the discussion of vasectomies came up. Then he started looking for excuses to not support that option.
The reason I mentioned that condoms are not as reliable as vasectomies was to anticipate his next excuse.
You understand that WOMEN are the ones that get pregnant, right?
If women are having unprotected sex and/or not using birth control they know that they can get pregnant right?
Your idiotic idea that all men should have vasectomies doesn't change the fact that WOMEN are the ones that get pregnant. Again... you do know that right?
Be careful what you wish for. You want to 'punish' men because women refuse to take care of their own health.
P-ss poor idiot logic. The 'vasectomy' argument highlights what victims women are. Poor poor women, need men to protect them because they are too dumb / incapable to do it for themselves.
Ease off please. I never said ALL men should get vasectomies. Just that if a substantial number of them did, it would help cut down on unintended pregnancies.
Many problems in life can be improved by using a variety of solutions because one size doesn't fit all.
I don't know why you think a vasectomy is punishing a man. I see it as another option in the birth control toolbox.
Ease off please. I never said ALL men should get vasectomies. Just that if a substantial number of them did, it would help cut down on unintended pregnancies.
Many problems in life can be improved by using a variety of solutions because one size doesn't fit all.
I don't know why you think a vasectomy is punishing a man. I see it as another option in the birth control toolbox.
I don't think a vasectomy is punishment.
The way YOU are discussing it comes across as vindictive and mandatory. As in man-hating, those man should just chop it off and women can rule!!!! vindictive. Let's punish those filthy baby makers!!!!
Maybe be clearer and less antagonistic in your posts and you won't be 'misunderstood.'
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Originally Posted by newtovenice
I don't think a vasectomy is punishment.
The way YOU are discussing it comes across as vindictive and mandatory. As in man-hating, those man should just chop it off and women can rule!!!! vindictive. Let's punish those filthy baby makers!!!!
Maybe be clearer and less antagonistic in your posts and you won't be 'misunderstood.'
The way YOU are discussing it comes across as vindictive and mandatory. As in man-hating, those man should just chop it off and women can rule!!!! vindictive. Let's punish those filthy baby makers!!!!
Maybe be clearer and less antagonistic in your posts and you won't be 'misunderstood.'
The way YOU are discussing it comes across as vindictive and mandatory. As in man-hating, those man should just chop it off and women can rule!!!! vindictive. Let's punish those filthy baby makers!!!!
Maybe be clearer and less antagonistic in your posts and you won't be 'misunderstood.'
Bingo…how dare those meanie men not do what they insist…and what’s even funnier is that a doctor isn’t going to line up a bunch of teenagers and give them vasectomies, while both young men and women are choosing to have unprotected sex.
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