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Old 04-15-2022, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
I'd be all for it, theoretically

Be interesting to see women BEGGING for men to reverse them.

Be careful what you wish for. The 'punishment' you so gleefully want to dole out may very well be your own.
If the men are young, nobody is stopping them from sending a sample to a sperm bank ( for possible future use ) before they have a vasectomy.

 
Old 04-15-2022, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Another unfounded claim without proof, as my posts call for taking responsibility by both men and women, but please do post where I said otherwise?
You practically freaked out at the thought of a vasectomy - looking for reasons why not to do it for yourself and your buddies. And no, that is not as traumatic to the body as pregnancy and childbirth.

It's late. Good night.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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You practically freaked out at the thought of a vasectomy - looking for reasons why not to do it for yourself and your buddies. And no, that is not as traumatic to the body as pregnancy and childbirth.

It's late. Good night.
LMAO. Please do post proof of that?

Already gave you a reason. I’m not a dullard that doesn’t take responsibility as I know how babies are made.

Take precautions and pregnancy and childbirth won’t have to occur. It’s really that simple…and let’s not forget tubal ligation is less traumatic than a vasectomy… https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8968663/.. but as always, I recommend both men and women take responsibility.

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Old 04-16-2022, 12:01 AM
 
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LMAO. Please do post proof of that?

Already gave you a reason. I’m not a dullard that doesn’t take responsibility as I know how babies are made.

Take precautions and pregnancy and childbirth won’t have to occur. It’s really that simple…and let’s not forget tubal ligation is less traumatic than a vasectomy…
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8968663/.. but as always, I recommend both men and women take responsibility.
Men are such drama queens if they are traumatized by a vasectomy
 
Old 04-16-2022, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Men are such drama queens if they are traumatized by a vasectomy
Obviously less of a drama queen than those insisting men should get vasectomies while women shouldn’t be responsible for using birth control, and then complaining about men when women end up pregnant.

If both took responsibility, versus the 52% that don’t use birth control, there’d be so many unwanted pregnancies…and obviously less sexually transmitted diseases.
 
Old 04-16-2022, 12:20 AM
 
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Men are such drama queens if they are traumatized by a vasectomy
Women are such drama queens when they can't kill their own babies.
 
Old 04-16-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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If the men are young, nobody is stopping them from sending a sample to a sperm bank ( for possible future use ) before they have a vasectomy.
Remind me:

Do men get pregnant?
 
Old 04-16-2022, 08:55 AM
 
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Remind me:

Do men get pregnant?
Don't get your question.

If a large or somewhat large percentage of men got vasectomies, don't you think that would substantially cut down the number of unintended pregnancies?
 
Old 04-16-2022, 08:58 AM
 
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Don't get your question.

If a large or somewhat large percentage of men got vasectomies, don't you think that would substantially cut down the number of unintended pregnancies?
Men who never want to have children can get vasectomies. Women who never want to have kids can get their tubes tied. Or, people could actually use the many available birth control methods to avoid unwanted pregnancies.
 
Old 04-16-2022, 09:06 AM
 
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LMAO. Please do post proof of that?

Already gave you a reason. I’m not a dullard that doesn’t take responsibility as I know how babies are made.

Take precautions and pregnancy and childbirth won’t have to occur. It’s really that simple…and let’s not forget tubal ligation is less traumatic than a vasectomy… https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8968663/.. but as always, I recommend both men and women take responsibility.
You are the one who said men, as well as women, should take responsibility for avoiding unintended pregnancies.

Yet when vasectomy is mentioned, you go out of your way to find an excuse why that procedure is too hard for a man to endure. The link you provided was about the need for psychological counseling before vasectomy for men or tubal ligation for women... in China. Nothing to do with what level of trauma to the body is caused by each procedure.

In case you didn't know, a tubal ligation is invasive abdominal surgery. A vasectomy ties off or snips two little tubes close to the surface. Hurts for a day or 3.
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