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Old 04-15-2022, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Originally Posted by FinsterRufus View Post
That’s an excellent question. My answer is - I dunno, human nature, people gamble with all sorts of things thinking it won’t happen to them. That’s one reason.

So what’s your solution? I mean apart from having all these irresponsible people giving birth to babies they don’t want?
The solution is being responsible or accept the consequences. So few folks choose to do that, and instead take the easy way out. Why not put the baby up for adoption?

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Old 04-15-2022, 03:58 PM
 
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The solution is being responsible or accept the consequences. So few folks choose to do that, and instead take the easy way out.
Abortion is not an easy out no matter what the ant choicers think.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:05 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What about rape or incest.
Combined, they account for only 0.33% of abortions. That's about 2,500 out of the 680,000 annual abortions.

Mother and/or baby health issues, combined, are another 1.4%. The total percentage of abortions that are due to anything other than pure convenience is only 1.73%.

Over 98% of abortions in the US are performed solely for the sake of convenience. About 670,000 are killed each year solely because their existence is an inconvenience to someone else.

Contrast that with the 11,000 gun killings that are committed each year that has the left all apoplectic and wanting to grab our guns.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Abortion is not an easy out no matter what the ant choicers think.
Certainly is, and adoption is also a great option.

Lol at anti choicers. Folks blaming others when they have the choice to be responsible is great stuff. It’s called taking responsibility for one’s actions.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:09 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So you’ll make exceptions for killing babies, taking a human life, as long as the circumstances meet your approval.

Gotcha.
Killing in self-defense is permitted. Killing another because they're an inconvenience to you is not. So from your post we can count you in the "no abortions for the sake of convenience" camp?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:20 PM
 
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The solution is being responsible or accept the consequences. So few folks choose to do that, and instead take the easy way out. Why not put the baby up for adoption?
I've had friends who have had abortions. They never considered it the "easy" way. It was through a lot of angst that they made that decision.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I've had friends who have had abortions. They never considered it the "easy" way. It was through a lot of angst that they made that decision.
Then they should’ve planned accordingly before getting to that point. They obviously thought it was easy compared to having a baby, as they could’ve had the baby and put it up for adoption if they didn’t want it. Hopefully they learned a lesson.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:26 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Unfortunately for you, humans have determined that embryos don't have full human rights. Neither do fetuses.
Not true at all. Many people have been charged with, convicted of, and sentenced to prison for fetal homicide.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:47 PM
 
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I hope you are volunteering to keep all those unneeded frozen human embryos from IVF in your freezer.
They never answer these posts.

It’s be curious as to their position on all the embryos currently in limbo in freezers. If the black and white position is that embryos are babies, then is this ok? If so, why?

And, it’s estimated that 50% of fertilised eggs (or babies, according to some posters, given that’s the first stage of the human life cycle) spontaneously abort.

That’s a lot of dead babies. Where is the due respect and mourning for all this human life?

And, shouldn’t we investigate every miscarriage to make sure it was completely natural and not caused by the actions of the pregnant woman (or girl, if that’s the case). If you take the position that a baby has been killed, then surely that’s worth investigating? Right? I mean it may be the woman’s fault. She may have been irresponsible.

Perhaps we should monitor all women of child bearing age to make sure that if they’re pregnant they know it, and subsequently make sure they do nothing to jeopardise that baby. (Ooh, perhaps some kind of camp would be safest, make sure all these early pregnancies are protected).

Or, if the state’s going to dictate that woman can’t have an abortion, perhaps the state should also ban women of child bearing age to do anything that may put a potential pregnancy in jeopardy too, like drinking or smoking, or having too many cups of coffee.

After all, there’s apparently no difference between a developed, born baby, and an embryo or fertilised egg. In terms of humanness and babyhood.







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Around half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously, usually before the woman knows she is pregnant. Among women who know they are pregnant, about 10% to 25% will have a miscarriage. Most miscarriages occur during the first 7 weeks of pregnancy. The rate of miscarriage drops after the baby's heartbeat is detected.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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1) No one is asking anyone to stop having sex. You're projecting. We just expect them to be responsible about it and use birth control correctly each and every time. I've already told you from my experience, the women and men I know who have the most active sex lives are the most conscientious about using birth control correctly every single time.

2) We already know that rapes account for only 0.3% of all abortions. AND we know that 95% of all abortions are due to unintended pregnancies, 95% of which are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex.

The reason so many women are stuck in stupid is exactly because of attitudes like yours, constantly making excuses out of your bizarre belief that women are too stupid to be able to act in their own best interest.

In what world are women unable to recognize a dysfunctional man?
In what world are women able to know that the father of their baby won't walk out on them?
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