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Russia's 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade has been successfully demilitarized and denazified. Legitimate security concerns forced this to happen. The special military operation continues to go according to plan.
Yes...of course the plan for war, death, destruction, and suffering goes how they want it to. They've made sure it has.
The West loves war...that is why they rejected and nixed the negotiated peace deal that could have avoided all this, and put unprecedented armaments and money into the warring effort. More arms and BILLIONS coming!!
That is what's best for the heavy political donating Military-Industrial Complex companies...providing a place to blame political failures on...and a pipeline for more kick-back schemes.
All the death, destruction, pain, and suffering are just "collateral damage" to those very important things the West/U.S./NATO loves so much. They always have.
E..............We're talking about missile systems that have the potential to reach Moscow within less than an hour. No sane government would just go along with something like that.............
Ukraine did. And was expected to. And now, if Russia had its way, Poland would.
You have accustomed yourself to believing that every country has two oceans separating them from their potential enemies. Rethink your standard. Every country has the right to place their missiles where they please. How could it possibly be otherwise?
The Soviet Union was intimidated into removing their missiles from Cuba. Not a shot was fired. And that's the way diplomacy works.
Ukraine never threatened to install missiles. We should stop pretending this whole thing is some sort of self defense on the part of Russia.
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Title of article: ‘Wiped out’: War in Ukraine has decimated a once feared Russian brigade
Excerpt: "HELSINKI — Nuclear-armed submarines slip in and out of the frigid waters along the coast of Russia’s Kola Peninsula at the northern edge of Europe. Missiles capable of destroying cities are stored by the dozens in bunkers burrowed into the inland hills. Since the Cold War, this Arctic arsenal has been protected by a combat unit considered one of Russia’s most formidable — the 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade — until it sent its best fighters and weapons to Ukraine this year and was effectively destroyed. ... Most of the unit’s officers had been killed or injured, Fedosenko said, and about 70% of its equipment — including about 32 tanks and 100 vehicles — had been destroyed or captured. ... Contacted by The Post, one of those soldiers acknowledged that he was at home recuperating, but declined to discuss his deployment or injuries in detail. He described himself as “a civilian person. I have a family, kids. I never even had a thought about needing to go fight†before being swept up by Putin’s mobilization. “When I was in the hospital, there were guys from Moscow, just simple guys, some worked in car repairs or some other places,†he said. “They were just pulled out of their civilian lives and sent to ‘take villages.’†Many were reassured that “we are going to be in the rear, not on the front line,†he said. “But it turned out to be the opposite.â€"
It's a fairly long article, with many photographs. The WaPo has a stack of documents from the Russian Army and the reporters were even able to telephone some of the Russian personnel. The story paints a devastating picture of a hollow army and soldiers who had zero or little training and no idea where they were going or what they were fighting for. Many casualties and many who just ran off. Reporters even phoned the wife of an injured Colonel who confirmed his injury and new assignment. Wounded Russian soldiers bled to death because they could not be evacuated. One reason for such a poor showing was some Russian soldiers sold off the fuel and supplies meant for their units. We need to keep sending more of our excellent equipment and supplies to the Ukrainians who are showing the world how real men fight.
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Sending troops and tanks across the border is practically the definition of invasion. What exactly was Russia pre-empting? How was it defensive, since Russia itself was never attacked?
Russia most certainly did invade. You might think they had legit reasons or not. Now how many countries has the United States invaded since say 2000?
We're talking about missile systems that have the potential to reach Moscow within less than an hour. No sane government would just go along with something like that. The United States wouldn't accept Mexico having Chinese troops stationed on their soil under the pretence of independent sovereignty and they're foolish to believe that Russia should adhere to a standard that the USA flouts.
If you think that Ukraine and the West had no offensive or aggressive ambitions towards Russia then why would they lie back in the early 2000s about needing missile systems in Central Europe? They claimed it was about stopping Iranian missiles but that's a joke because at the time Iran's missile program had no such reach.
Does Russia not have missile systems that can reach Kyev in an hour? Why should any sane government go along with that?
How about Russia and Ukraine play on the same terms - neither side or both sides to have missiles capable of reaching the other's capital?
Do Iranian missiles have the reach now? You have to prepare your defense before the other side has the offense.
Ukraine has demonstrated itself as being worthy of every penny of aid the west is sending.
Ukraine is successfully defending its homeland. It's performance on the battlefield has literally stunned the world about as much as Russia's incompetence has shocked the world. Russia has already sustained a strategic defeat on the world stage and is diminished as a regional power....Putin now waits on world leaders or they refuse to meet with him such as India's Modi recently cancelled his meeting. Zelensky is demanding more weapons because they need them and have demonstrated tangible results on the battlefield (Kyiv, Kharkiv and the evacuation of Kherson) to warrant them. Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut....Russia takes meters...Ukraine takes villages. Civil Liberties are always suspended during times of war...In the US Civil War Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus.
So Zelensky is doing what all wartime leader do....having to make hard decisions.
And the war is not over and Ukraine is taking a battering because Russia is much bigger and we weren't even supposed to be here according to the assumptions when the war started.,
You earlier wrote to me that Russia had already lost this war. If that's the case - if Ukraine has triumphed and Russia has lost - then why does Ukraine still need American taxpayer money and weaponry?
And if YOU think Ukraine is "worthy," then you're exactly where the puppetmasters want you: "unaware and compliant" (to quote that possible pedophile John Podesta).
You earlier wrote to me that Russia had already lost this war. If that's the case - if Ukraine has triumphed and Russia has lost - then why does Ukraine still need American taxpayer money and weaponry?
And if YOU think Ukraine is "worthy," then you're exactly where the puppetmasters want you: "unaware and compliant" (to quote that possible pedophile John Podesta).
I said Russia has already experienced a strategic defeat on the geo-political stage in that they are a greatly diminished power on the world stage. Ukraine has made them look like the gang that can't shoot straight...literally.
So Russia didnt invade Ukraine? There can many reason that Putin decided to, in the end, Russia invaded. That is the simple part I am talking about.
Your approach is basically "Country 1 did this, so Country 1 is at fault" - without examining what happened between Country 1 and Country 2.
Russia is Country 1 and Ukraine is Country 2 - and in this case, Ukraine did a LOT of things to provoke Russia. And unfortunately, our country was involved in these provocations in one way or another.
Do not make the mistake of thinking Ukraine is a truly independent party; Zelensky is a puppet and a stooge; without the west's permission, he can't do much insofar this conflict with Russia is concerned. The UK and U.S. quashed what was a potential breakthrough in negotiations as far back as April, when the conflict wasn't 2 months old.
Sure, he's a very well paid puppet; his own wife reportedly spent EUR 40,000 in one hour's worth of shopping this week. But at the same time she goes off buying that luxury stuff, her husband is busy suppressing journalists, supporting the potential outlawing of a historic institution of Ukraine and of the practice of religious belief, after he dissolved a Kiev court that investigates corruption.
Perhaps none of that matters to you, but you cannot think simplistically and ignore the cognitive dissonance you become guilty of if you think the U.S. is helping Ukraine for its democracy when its ostensibly democratic leaders act like the petty little despots they are.
History is NEVER simple. Those who want it to be simple are those who do not like facts which if faced squarely would obligate them to rethink their positions.
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Ukraine did. And was expected to. And now, if Russia had its way, Poland would.
‘Wiped out’: War in Ukraine has decimated a once feared Russian brigade.
