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Ukraine still has a long way to go if it wants to match Russia's brutality and violence.
The main difference between Ukraine and Russia is that Russian targets are military which sometimes cause collateral damage(or are sent off course by Ukrainian air defenses). Ukrainian targets in Russia are pretty much never military. They're only intended to scare people. Although in most cases, it seems more aimed at embarrassment than fear.
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Originally Posted by rumsunel
This is how Ukrainian propaganda is done. A known fact is taken and surrounded by lies or unverified information.
That is how American propaganda is done as well.
>ACCORDING TO UNNAMED WESTERN OFFICIALS
>UKRANIAN INTELLIGENCE CLAIMS
>UNNAMED SOURCES CITED
>RUSSIAN (((DISSIDENT))) PREDICTS
>PUBLIC SENTIMENT SUGGESTS
>A SOURCE FAMILIAR WITH RUSSIAN THINKING
>US INTELLIGENCE REVEALS
>UK INTELLIGENCE CONFIRMS
>REUTERS SAYS
>US OFFICIALS SAY
>PENTAGON SAYS
>DOD BELIEVES
>GENERAL MILLEY CONFIRMS
>FBI AGREES
>CITING UNNAMED WESTERN OFFICIALS
>DIPLOMATS SURMISE
>EU PROMISES
>CNN BELIEVES
>MSNBC HAS FOUND
>STUDIES SHOW
>EXPERTS SAY
>UNCONFIRMED BUT REALISTIC REPORTS
>BASED ON RELIABLE SIMULATIONS
>A SOURCE FROM UKRAINE
>NATO ESTIMATES
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Originally Posted by davidt1
Some people seem to forget that it took Russia 8 months to take Bakhmut. Ukraine can't be expected to do much better. The Russians had months to build up defensive networks. Of course, progress would be slow for Ukraine. Anyone expecting a quick victory is not being realistic.
In Bakhmut, Ukraine was heavily outgunned but defending. In the counteroffensive, Ukraine is heavily outgunned and not defending. That's why Ukraine has lost more soldiers in a month than Russia lost in a year. The loss ratios in this counteroffensive are catastrophic.
India launched a sophisticated lunar explorer, and used relatively low power rockets and technology to get into lunar orbit. The Indian vehicle will land in a few days.
Russia used a higher power and larger rocket and tried to beat India to the lunar south pole. It crashed.
I don't think Russians are aware of their own incompetence and shortcomings. Many Russians apparently believe Russia can thrive in spite of being ostracized by the world economic organizations, sanctioned by most major countries and boycotted by well over 1000 companies, some of whom were vital to Russia's energy development. And if that's what they believe, they are wrong.
F-16s are to become a permanent reality for Ukraine. European countries evidently feel the option is clear; assist Ukraine now, or face the same fate as Ukraine. No one believes Russia will ever stop its aggressive behavior until it sees that it simply cannot continue.
NATO official suggests some rumblings on pushing a peace deal where Ukraine joins NATO and Russia annexes more land from Ukraine. Ukraine denies that they'd ever support such a deal.
India launched a sophisticated lunar explorer, and used relatively low power rockets and technology to get into lunar orbit. The Indian vehicle will land in a few days.
Russia used a higher power and larger rocket and tried to beat India to the lunar south pole. It crashed.
I don't think Russians are aware of their own incompetence and shortcomings. Many Russians apparently believe Russia can thrive in spite of being ostracized by the world economic organizations, sanctioned by most major countries and boycotted by well over 1000 companies, some of whom were vital to Russia's energy development. And if that's what they believe, they are wrong.
F-16s are to become a permanent reality for Ukraine. European countries evidently feel the option is clear; assist Ukraine now, or face the same fate as Ukraine. No one believes Russia will ever stop its aggressive behavior until it sees that it simply cannot continue.
Space exploration is difficult and failures happen. India's 2019 moon landing failed. In the same year, Israel's moon landing also failed. Japan's Hakuto-R moon landing failed in April of 2023. America had a string of failures in the early years of NASA.
Ukrainian targets in Russia are pretty much never military. They're only intended to scare people. Although in most cases, it seems more aimed at embarrassment than fear.
OMG, Putin needs to just stop. All he is doing is proving how inept Russians are. Russia is not the old USSR.
That’s precisely the point, even an inept Russia can still be a threat.
Russia has endless cannon fodder to throw into the war.
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"For people living in small towns, villages and prisons, the war is an option to earn 10 times more money than they got before," Boris Grozovski, an expert on the Russian economy from the Wilson Center think tank, told Newsweek. "So they and their families see war as a lottery to get out from poverty."
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"Now Putin says to poor Russians: 'Go and kill Ukrainians. If you are lucky and return alive, you will become rich. If you die, your family will get huge sums of money from the government."
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As Newsweek reported in May, vacancies analyzed by the Foundation of Ukrainian War Victims, found that the average salary for jobs "directly related" to the war totaled 300,000 rubles, far higher than the national average of around 63,000 rubles.
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