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At this point Russia is in no hurry to negotiate with The West. The US Congress will decide to fork over more money and weapons into this catastrophe. Eventually Russia will take everything that borders the Black Sea leaving whatever will be left of Ukraine landlocked.
Treaty? If you were Russia would you believe that this time The West would uphold their end of the bargain? I wouldn't.
Yes, part of the reason that the Russians won't negotiate is that Ukraine and the West were not serious over the Minsk accords, only stringing Russia along while they built up their forces. Now the Russians will simply take what they want, no negotiations needed. Ukraine and the West shot their credibility on that.
Yes. There are MULTIPLE videos of people, being caught in the street, public transportation, gyms, bars, etc and, literally dragged and tossed into the conscriptions vans. Along with videos of them being beat up.
The latest is a male with CP, who died at the conscription place, after being beat up, crushed skull, broken ribs.
Go to Telegram, there are dozens of such vids. Of course, you can, also, say that Telegram is propaganda and it's all lies. Personal choice.
I said minors/children... I know what is going on there. They have taken people off the streets this way. But children??? I don't think so.
Yes, part of the reason that the Russians won't negotiate is that Ukraine and the West were not serious over the Minsk accords, only stringing Russia along while they built up their forces. Now the Russians will simply take what they want, no negotiations needed. Ukraine and the West shot their credibility on that.
Looks like the Budapest Memorandum wasn't taken serious either.
So grabbing the 18-80 crowd is OK so long as they leave the pre teens alone? Got it.
Not my country, not my place to tell them what they should or should not be doing. But I am wise enough to know that what Russia has been doing is 100% wrong.
Looks like the Budapest Memorandum wasn't taken serious either.
You're right. The US embassy in Minsk was already putting out statements of how the memorandum was 'non-binding' back in 2013. Then we have the subsequent 'revolution' facilitated in large part by Victoria Nuland which you think would constitute a violation of Ukranian sovereignty but I suppose not.
Yep. And then, start spewing out venom about how Russia does not honour any treaty and is a lying sob. That's what Putin told you many times. You lied to us. You broke your own treaties.
We are DONE.
Looks like the Budapest Memorandum wasn't taken serious either.
Yes, no side is serious, so looks like this will be decided by force of arms. Whoever is strongest wins.
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