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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 198 39.52%
No 254 50.70%
Unsure 49 9.78%
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Old 03-22-2024, 03:56 PM
 
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There have been Americans who have volunteered to go and help the Ukrainian military. It's kind of the same thing just in larger numbers.
That is concerning. It's an old trick used to get around the very thing in which these nations claim to fight for "democracy." Citizens would never approve such actions, so they call them volunteers, instructors, advisors, etc.; to avoid the politics of the situation.

The fact that the numbers are increasing tells me the situation for Ukraine is worse then what they are reporting.

Then there are articles like this one.

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...-war-kupiansk/
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:10 PM
 
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That is concerning. It's an old trick used to get around the very thing in which these nations claim to fight for "democracy." Citizens would never approve such actions, so they call them volunteers, instructors, advisors, etc.; to avoid the politics of the situation.

The fact that the numbers are increasing tells me the situation for Ukraine is worse then what they are reporting.

Then there are articles like this one.

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...-war-kupiansk/
Well most of the reporting is coming from contacts we actually know there and they'll tell you the situation is dire, even worse than what the Telegram channels show.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:11 PM
 
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There have been Americans who have volunteered to go and help the Ukrainian military. It's kind of the same thing just in larger numbers.

Combine this with the attack on Moscow and we are now at the fark around and find out stage. This isn't a small group of volunteers. This is what happens when ignorant arrogant people who decide it is a good idea not to negotiate are in charge. Now you have bad cop Medvedev saying if they can prove anyone in Kiev is behind this then they will be assassinated.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:15 PM
 
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Combine this with the attack on Moscow and we are now at the fark around and find out stage. This isn't a small group of volunteers. This is what happens when ignorant arrogant people who decide it is a good idea not to negotiate are in charge. Now you have bad cop Medvedev saying if they can prove anyone in Kiev is behind this then they will be assassinated.
I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of Kiev isn't flattened by Russia if it is Ukraine.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:16 PM
 
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Well most of the reporting is coming from contacts we actually know there and they'll tell you the situation is dire, even worse than what the Telegram channels show.
Did you see the post of the British medic claiming things are much worse for Ukraine than the West is reporting. Or the Polish I think he is a retired General claiming losses for Ukraine are well over 1,000,000?

This has to stop.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:18 PM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of Kiev isn't flattened by Russia if it is Ukraine.

Russia does not want to do it or they would have done it already.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:18 PM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of Kiev isn't flattened by Russia if it is Ukraine.
How ya gonna know?... Rusia is going to say it's Ukraine no matter who it is.
What, you thought Russia would just tell us if it was Russians?.... HA!


Russia is already doing everything they can to flatten Kiev.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:19 PM
 
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Did you see the post of the British medic claiming things are much worse for Ukraine than the West is reporting. Or the Polish I think he is a retired General claiming losses for Ukraine are well over 1,000,000?

This has to stop.
The news media I see and read everyday is extremely biased for Ukraine, making it seem they are winning every battle and destroying Russia. If this were even half true, that war would have been over at least a year ago.
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Old 03-22-2024, 04:21 PM
 
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How ya gonna know?... Rusia is going to say it's Ukraine no matter who it is.
What, you thought Russia would just tell us if it was Russians?.... HA!


Russia is already doing everything they can to flatten Kiev.
No, currently ISIS is taking the credit from what I've seen but if it was Ukraine, it was suicidal. Russia would want to take revenge on whoever did it. They won't pretend it was Ukraine, if it wasn't. They don't need to as they are already at war.

If Russia wanted to just flatten Kiev, they would have done that a long time ago. They don't need anyone's permission. Russia is not doing anything currently to flatten Kiev with an occasional missile launch into the city.

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Old 03-22-2024, 04:29 PM
 
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Russia's economy is expected to grow faster than that of the U.S. in 2024, according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

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