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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 193 39.31%
No 251 51.12%
Unsure 47 9.57%
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Old 09-17-2022, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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....................Second, when has China ever been anti-American? They love the US. We are one of their best customers. They are making a fortune off of us. But they are also developing markets all over the world, including in Russia. So if they did lose trade with the US, which is absolutely, positively, not going to happen, they would still be in good shape economically. It would just mean they lost their best customer, but they would still have hundreds more................. China is on track to be the #1 economic power in the world, and absolutely nothing short of World War 3 can prevent that from happening...........................
China is an utter fraud. They are good at announcing grandiose plans and artists concepts, but nothing else.
Demographic collapse, real estate collapse, and the collapse of individual Chinese wealth will insure that China has seen its best days. With a Total Debt-to-GDP of 400%, and much of it invested in infrastructure with no payback, China is doomed.
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Old 09-17-2022, 12:34 PM
 
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China is an utter fraud. They are good at announcing grandiose plans and artists concepts, but nothing else.
Demographic collapse, real estate collapse, and the collapse of individual Chinese wealth will insure that China has seen its best days. With a Total Debt-to-GDP of 400%, and much of it invested in infrastructure with no payback, China is doomed.
Lol. Did you notice what other countries debt/GDP ratios are plotted on the graph in your link.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:09 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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When Russians gained, it was "THEY CONTROL 20% OF UKRAINE! THEY ARE GAINING EVERY DAY!"
When Ukrainians push Russians back it is "some small areas reclaimed by Ukraine outside Mykolaev."
No, I was speaking specifically of the south of Ukraine in that sentence, so compared to the large territory Russia took and still retains for the moment, the gains for Ukraine south of Mykolaev are indeed small. They have, however made significant gains in the northeast, which can be seen on the map I posted. The purple areas are territory Ukraine has regained. You can see how the territory re-gained in the south is, indeed, small compared to 1) the territory Russia is holding onto in the south, and 1) the much lager gains Ukraine has made in the northeast.

Context is everything.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:12 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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https://tsarizm.com/news/eastern-eur...dge-to-crimea/

Russia had vast swaths of Northern Ukraine back on March 18th before they were driven back near Kiev all the way to Kharkiv.

I'm only talking about what they gained in the invasion, not what they stole in 2014.
Me, too. Russia has lost roughly 1/3 of what they gained after the invasion. They still hold nearly all the southern territory.
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Old 09-17-2022, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Deny's update today 9/17...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TyqLNFLH68
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Old 09-17-2022, 05:09 PM
 
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MOSCOW, September 17 - RIA Novosti. Kyiv, agreeing to Western aid under Lend-Lease, endangered its own sovereignty and may be forced to pay for it with territories, placing them at the disposal of the United States and NATO, columnist Pablo Leal said in an article for the Spanish editionRebelion.
“To cover the exorbitantly huge debt, Ukrainian politicians will be required to provide the territory of the country at the disposal of American and NATO troops. The United States and the North Atlantic Alliance intend to build dozens of military bases on it, as was already the case in Germany after World War II, and rent them out at an extremely unfavorable conditions," the author suggested.
Leal stated that Kyiv is digging a hole for itself and risks the future by deciding to submit to Western states. The USA and NATO countries, according to the journalist, persistently imposeUkraine in order to force it to maintain and modernize them in the future, thereby pumping out funds from its budget in favor of its own military-industrial complex.
Kyiv will become the main coverWashington inEurope and a tool for promoting the interests of American lobbies from the energy and military-industrial sectors," he concluded.
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Old 09-17-2022, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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MOSCOW, September 17 - RIA Novosti. Kyiv, agreeing to Western aid under Lend-Lease, endangered its own sovereignty and may be forced to pay for it with territories, placing them at the disposal of the United States and NATO, columnist Pablo Leal said in an article for the Spanish editionRebelion.
“To cover the exorbitantly huge debt, Ukrainian politicians will be required to provide the territory of the country at the disposal of American and NATO troops. The United States and the North Atlantic Alliance intend to build dozens of military bases on it, as was already the case in Germany after World War II, and rent them out at an extremely unfavorable conditions," the author suggested.
Leal stated that Kyiv is digging a hole for itself and risks the future by deciding to submit to Western states. The USA and NATO countries, according to the journalist, persistently imposeUkraine in order to force it to maintain and modernize them in the future, thereby pumping out funds from its budget in favor of its own military-industrial complex.
Kyiv will become the main coverWashington inEurope and a tool for promoting the interests of American lobbies from the energy and military-industrial sectors," he concluded.

sounds good to me..soon as Ukraine kicks those scummy Russian vacationers out of Crimea, we'll take it and turn it into a gambling/vacation resort mecca..yeah, that'll work..
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Old 09-17-2022, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Good to see this guy get a sponsor...he really does a good job.
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Old 09-17-2022, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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MOSCOW, September 17 - RIA Novosti. Kyiv, agreeing to Western aid under Lend-Lease, endangered its own sovereignty and may be forced to pay for it with territories, placing them at the disposal of the United States and NATO, columnist Pablo Leal said in an article for the Spanish editionRebelion.
“To cover the exorbitantly huge debt, Ukrainian politicians will be required to provide the territory of the country at the disposal of American and NATO troops. The United States and the North Atlantic Alliance intend to build dozens of military bases on it, as was already the case in Germany after World War II, and rent them out at an extremely unfavorable conditions," the author suggested.
Leal stated that Kyiv is digging a hole for itself and risks the future by deciding to submit to Western states. The USA and NATO countries, according to the journalist, persistently imposeUkraine in order to force it to maintain and modernize them in the future, thereby pumping out funds from its budget in favor of its own military-industrial complex.
Kyiv will become the main coverWashington inEurope and a tool for promoting the interests of American lobbies from the energy and military-industrial sectors," he concluded.
Sounds like propaganda to me.
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Old 09-17-2022, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Sounds like propaganda to me.
He usually regurgitates propaganda, but he's also offered opinions in posts, like the one from a few months ago where he said after the Russian Donbas offensive Ukraine would be peacefully divided up with Russia getting most of it.

It aged so poorly he now seems to prefer sticking to copypasting propaganda.
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