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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
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Old 08-13-2023, 07:25 AM
 
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Some Russians soldiers are claiming Ukraine has used chemical weapons. Might not be true.

Interestingly enough, Forbes just ran an article a couple of days ago claiming that the US not instantly giving all of its best weapons to Ukraine quickly has led to the current stalemate and the stalemate means there is an increased chance of nuclear war or chemical warfare by Russia.

Essentially, the MSM is saying to avoid a more serious war, we have to escalate the war dramatically, they're telling us this as most Americans (55%) now want no more aid per a CNN poll.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigho...h=6faab67f510f


Ukrainians begin to despair as massive casualties rack up with no significant gains from the spring counteroffensive. Ukraine needs good news as the country starts to divide.

Washington claims that we have provided Ukraine with everything that they need to win, but the WSJ has reported that western officials have admitted privately that they knew the spring offensive would fail as Ukraine wasn't properly trained, didn't have air superiority, enough shells, etc. and that NATO would not have made that attack under those situations.

https://libertarianinstitute.org/new...=64d551b2d88d7
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:05 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Inflation in Russia is now 16.7%.
That's high by most standards and is the result of sanctions, financial isolation and ruble collapse. The ruble collapse results in much higher prices from imported items.
Many imported items and services are no longer available in Russia.


Only a few months ago Ukraine had no way to attack the Crimea Bridge. Somehow, their "failed offensive" has enabled them to do so now.
Ukraine is very good at keeping operational information to themselves. This contrasts greatly with Russian propagandists and bots who fall all over themselves declaring one victory after another.
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Inflation in Russia is now 16.7%.
That's high by most standards and is the result of sanctions, financial isolation and ruble collapse. The ruble collapse results in much higher prices from imported items.
Many imported items and services are no longer available in Russia.


Only a few months ago Ukraine had no way to attack the Crimea Bridge. Somehow, their "failed offensive" has enabled them to do so now.
Ukraine is very good at keeping operational information to themselves. This contrasts greatly with Russian propagandists and bots who fall all over themselves declaring one victory after another.
What are you talking about? They attacked the bridge last year. But they still haven't been able to destroy it.
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:38 AM
 
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Cluster munitions obliterated Russian rocket launcher. It looks like the rockets exploded after getting hit.


https://youtu.be/ti8PR7Ige0k
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Old 08-13-2023, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Imagine making so little progress with the counteroffensive you post video clips of Ukraine scoring pot shots on anything Russian. Imagine hating a group of people so much that you openly cheer for their deaths. Imagine the sort of self righteousness one must feel to hold this view. You fancy yourself a God? The spirit of Cain is alive and well.
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Imagine making so little progress with the counteroffensive you post video clips of Ukraine scoring pot shots on anything Russian. Imagine hating a group of people so much that you openly cheer for their deaths. Imagine the sort of self righteousness one must feel to hold this view. You fancy yourself a God? The spirit of Cain is alive and well.
Imagine ethnic cleansing not seen on a level since WW2
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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ISW Update 8/12/23

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...august-12-2023

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Aug 12, 2023 - Press ISW

Russian milbloggers acknowledged that Ukrainian forces are maintaining a presence on the east (left) bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast in contrast to previous Ukrainian raids, but ISW does not yet assess that these positions constitute a bridgehead. A Kremlin-affiliated milblogger claimed on the evening of August 11 that Ukrainian forces have established positions west of Kozachi Laheri after several days of limited raids across the Dnipro River. Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups continue to operate west of Kozachi Laheri, but that the settlement itself is still under Russian control. The milbloggers also claimed that Ukrainian reconnaissance groups continue to operate near the Antonivsky Bridge and in the Hola Prystan area and conduct raids across the Dnipro River. Continuing Russian claims that Ukrainian forces maintain a presence on the east bank of the Dnipro River suggest that Russian forces are concerned that Ukrainian forces have established semi-lasting positions across the river. Russian sources continue to describe Ukrainian groups operating on the left bank as small in size and fighting to be primarily between light infantry units. No Russian sources have indicated that Ukrainian forces on the left bank have the heavy equipment or vehicles likely required to establish a bridgehead that would be necessary to enable wider offensive operations into left bank Kherson Oblast.
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:06 AM
 
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Inflation in Russia is now 16.7%.
That's high by most standards and is the result of sanctions, financial isolation and ruble collapse. The ruble collapse results in much higher prices from imported items.
Many imported items and services are no longer available in Russia.


Only a few months ago Ukraine had no way to attack the Crimea Bridge. Somehow, their "failed offensive" has enabled them to do so now.
Ukraine is very good at keeping operational information to themselves. This contrasts greatly with Russian propagandists and bots who fall all over themselves declaring one victory after another.
Just curious - why are you posting data from March 2022?

It's August 13, 2023 today, FYI.
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:10 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Just curious - why are you posting data from March 2022?

It's August 13, 2023 today, FYI.
ROFLMAO...that same site shows US inflation at 2% as of 2023

Probably not even a real deal...they have obfuscated themselves with subdomain names.
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Old 08-13-2023, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Ukraine is very good at keeping operational information to themselves. This contrasts greatly with Russian propagandists and bots who fall all over themselves declaring one victory after another.
Is this why Biden is still giving Zelensky a blank check?

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Biden asks Congress for $40 billion to support Ukraine
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-r...9dce1cccdc2d1e

Imagine giving Zelesnky a blank check while your own country has an island in a state burning to the ground (Maui).

You don’t give billions to the winning team, they’re already winning, you give billions to the losing team who just sucked up your previous $40 billion to fund corrupt politicians.

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Ukraine’s Zelensky Fires Draft Officers After Alleged Corruption Hobbles Recruitment
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine...ment-a16b835c#

WSJ and AP News! It’s Putin propaganda!
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