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I read the book and unlike the lefty death-cult, actually COMPREHEND what I read.
No one understands FLAWED analogies because they're... well... FLAWED. And in THIS case, the analogy to THT is SEVERELY flawed for the reasons I already noted.
Don't want to get pregnant? USE BIRTH CONTROL. HOW is that HARD for anyone to understand?
This thread is about keeping birth control available (against the idiots who want to take it away). Isn't that what YOU want? What are you fighting about?
So what you are saying is that Republicans agree there is a right to contraception but there were other clauses that they disagreed with?
I'll go see.
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Originally Posted by FatBob96
I'm saying that I don't know what the details are .
But if history political teaches us anything, it's that Democrats love to play silly games with the what a bill is called vs what it actually does.
Does the "Affordable Care Act" ring a bell?
Yep and Justice Scalia's Broccoli mandate ... this is what happens when the people get the federal government involved in their culture. This whole thing marks as craziness.
This thread is about keeping birth control available (against the idiots who want to take it away). Isn't that what YOU want? What are you fighting about?
Birth control is EASILY available, everywhere. NO state bans birth control. WHY aren't couples who DON'T want to get pregnant using it?
Guttmacher's research into unintended pregnancies found that 95% of such are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission.
Birth control is EASILY available and provided for FREE at over 4,000 taxpayer-funded Title X Family Planning Clinics throughout the US. So... again... WHY aren't couples who DON'T want a baby using birth control? WHERE is the extreme disconnect happening between their intentions vs. their actions?
Looking at WHAT is causing that extreme disconnect is going to come MUCH closer to solving the problem of unwanted pregnancies than will anything else.
Birth control is EASILY available, everywhere. NO state bans birth control. WHY aren't couples who DON'T want to get pregnant using it?
Guttmacher's research into unintended pregnancies found that 95% of such are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission.
Birth control is EASILY available and provided for FREE at over 4,000 taxpayer-funded Title X Family Planning Clinics throughout the US. So... again... WHY aren't couples who DON'T want a baby using birth control? WHERE is the extreme disconnect happening between their intentions vs. their actions?
Looking at WHAT is causing that extreme disconnect is going to come MUCH closer to solving the problem of unwanted pregnancies than will anything else.
No state bans birth control until some idiot extremist gets a state to ban birth control. Never say never.
A law to keep BC legal at the federal level will stop the extremists.
Why do you oppose a law that says contraceptives cannot be banned? We have laws about all sorts of drugs and medical devices... saying what is allowed or not allowed.
Abortion has been around for thousands of years too, and yet we have some extremists who are trying their best to ban it. Never say never.
who said I oppose a law saying it (or anything) can not be banned???
what I have said, is it is not a RIGHT, at least not federally (per the constitution) you can not declare a medicine, a specific medicine a federal right
and no, I don't want to see it banned..... but it certainly is not a constitutional right...and just because something is not a right, does not mean it is banned
for example, I loath that the democrats of 1937 made cannabis illegal...
This thread is about keeping birth control available (against the idiots who want to take it away). Isn't that what YOU want? What are you fighting about?
the only idiots are the liberals that want to give the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT the power to make it a right/take it away....
why do liberfools keep wanting to make the federal government bigger???
From what I understand, the purpose of the legislation is not to make contraception free for Americans nationwide, but to block states from banning contraception if the Griswold decision is reconsidered by the Supreme Court, the same way some states are now banning abortion after the Supreme Court reversed Roe...
which states have, since RvW was overturned, passed a law outlawing all elective abortions?
Again, that's your "media narrative" showing. It's the same as the topic of "contraception". 99% of thus think of contraception as "preventing conception", yes?
However, where the line will be drawn - and IMO shouldn't, but this is the actual fact - is post-conception contraception, for example the "morning after pill" (really for a couple of weeks). It would likely also include the use of IUD's to these people, since the function of an IUD is the prevent the implanting of the fertilized egg.
It is a fact that some pro-lifers believe in their hearts that "life begins at conception" and so an intentional post-conception action is an abortion. Again, I disagree with them, but at least I take the time to understand them.
She's running for office. She's not a politician. She has no vote other than the same as anyone else who is 18 or older and a US citizen.
It's not just those running for office - there are at least some current Republican lawmakers and politicians suggesting they would like to ban contraception, as well:
Where there is smoke there is fire. There are governors already gearing up to change the laws and mostly the funding for birth control.
Republicans aren't even bothering to lie about it anymore. They are now coming for birth control. SFLA's executive director, Kristan Hawkins, has said that in her ideal world the pill and IUDs would be "illegal."
All But 10 House Republicans Voted Against Ensuring the Right to Contraception
GOP lawmakers insist they’re not coming for contraception or marriage rights — yet the vast majority of them have voted against codifying them into law.
The bill specifically defined contraceptives as "any drug, device, or biological product intended for use in the prevention of pregnancy, whether specifically intended to prevent pregnancy or for other health needs, that is legally marketed under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, such as oral contraceptives, long-acting reversible contraceptives, emergency contraceptives, internal and external condoms, injectables, vaginal barrier methods, transdermal patches, and vaginal rings, or other contraceptives." https://www.salon.com/2022/07/21/the...ntrol-condoms/
… in the fine print of their measure, those Republicans revealed that their ambition wasn’t only to target a familiar abortion foe. They were going after specific forms of birth control as well, notably, emergency contraceptives, often sold under the brand name Plan B, and intrauterine devices, known as IUDs. GOP lawmakers tried to stop Missouri’s Medicaid agency from paying for those forms of contraception.
A Louisiana House committee earlier this month passed a bill saying that “human personhood” begins at the point of fertilization, an interpretation that critics say could potentially be used to outlaw Plan B drugs, IUDs and perhaps other forms of birth control.
Idaho state Rep. Brent Crane, Republican, said he would hold hearings on legislation banning emergency contraceptives and possibly IUDs as well.
and all of this perfectly makes my point. The R's in Congress are not, right now, going to agree to the right to Plan B post-conception termination of pregnancy.
But y'all grandstand, read Rolling Stone and Salon, and swallow what they're selling whole. Because at the state level, what you saw was a whole of "may" and "might propose" and "hold hearings".
So where was the compromise, or even input?
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