Is Gaza the world's largest concentration camp? (Ron Paul, Afghanistan, Giuliani)

[doubbltunman]

Oh yes Israel has successfully backed the Palestinians into "ghettos and slums" the same (allegedly) done to them in WWII. How ironic? Weapons, U.S. Dollars all provided by the great United States of America. Hey fellow Americans we have successfully supported these atrocities "killings, wounding and stealing of Palestinian land" and you wont find one article of it in our mainstream media-How ironic...

[jpgordon1]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

Oh, you know this for a fact, do you? There is one of us here who does need to get real. But, as it happens, it's not me.

Just another one of these posters who uses "knowledge" as a coverup for bigotry. And guess what--I'm not scapegoating when I say this!

Don't blame "bigotry" for the Jews' problems over 57 centuries. The Hebrew holy books are filled with wars and conflicts with their neighbors. All jewish holidays celebrate wars or conflict of some kind. It seems almost inevitable, as the Palestinians are now finding out.

this list covers the period after 250 A.D.

YEAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PLACE
250 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carthage
415 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria
554 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocese of Clement (France)
561 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocese of Uzzes (France)
612 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain
642 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
876 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1276 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Upper Bavaria
1290 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - England
1306 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)
1348 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Switzerland
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau
1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia
1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro
1557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria
1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland
1649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux
1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alcace
1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia
1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lubeck & Bremen
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia
1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Area in the U.S. under Grant's Jurisdiction
1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
1938-45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nazi Controlled Areas
1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries

[highdesertmutz]

This is why the palistinians should choose peace, over terrorism. when the palestinians employ terrorism, they receive worse, over-reaction as retalitory air stikes, incursions, and even worse. if the palistinians want peace, genuinely, they should come to the table with israel and make peace, and stop teaching thier children how to become homicide bombers.

Originally Posted by odanny

They didnt have any choice. They were bit players, and while the British waffled on when and how to implement the governance of this new European and American creation, the Israeli's resorted to terrorism. The King David would only be the beginning, and the cloak of aggression would be permitted as they were "victims" once themselves. Over 50 years later, the Palestinians have only seen their lands shrink, the walls and barb wire grow longer and taller, and their rights as humans be lessened, their civil liberties restricted, and access to land ownership, the free use of roadways (and access), free use of travel (access) be as restricted as their chance for economic independence.

While their pain has deepened and their lives grown increasingly miserable by the heavy hand of Israel (closing borders, dehumanizing Palestinans, imprisoning and torturing Palestinians, etc...) they have known only pain, joblessness and hopelessness, all while the rightwing and so-called "Christian" conservatives in this nation, and ESPECIALLY in the media, have worked tirelessly to demonize the victims of Israeli brutality while showering praise on all things Israel. .

And our unreserved support for Israel is what the CIA/NSA have determined was the chief motivation for Sept. 11th, 2001.

Terrorism begets terrorism

[highdesertmutz]

hey fellow americans, we've invaded iraq for no good reason. same logic.

Originally Posted by doubbltunman

Oh yes Israel has successfully backed the Palestinians into "ghettos and slums" the same (allegedly) done to them in WWII. How ironic? Weapons, U.S. Dollars all provided by the great United States of America. Hey fellow Americans we have successfully supported these atrocities "killings, wounding and stealing of Palestinian land" and you wont find one article of it in our mainstream media-How ironic...

[texdav]

I don't seem to remember any Jewsish siccide bomber in germany ;but I could be wrong.Even Carter couldn't get the palestians to agree to peace. They are fighting a war that the arab nations started years ago while the other arabs are making money and living high. Fools is what i say.

[MagKm]

Originally Posted by texdav

I don't seem to remember any Jewsish siccide bomber in germany ;but I could be wrong.Even Carter couldn't get the palestians to agree to peace. They are fighting a war that the arab nations started years ago while the other arabs are making money and living high. Fools is what i say.

If you look at jewish history, it ALWAYS involves Jews living in conflict or at war with their immediate neighbors or hosts. It always ends up with their expulsion. History has proven these two things, without fail. Palestine is just the latest version of the pattern.

Time is not on the Zionists' side, eventually they will get expelled from Palestine. Maybe not in 10 years, maybe not 50, but it will happen, it always does with Jews.

I think Ahmadinijead and all the Arabs know this, and take a longer horizon on it.

[Frank_Carbonni]

Originally Posted by jpgordon1

Do you read anything other than propaganda? You are very, very well-trained.

Of course not. I have even read the Hamas constitution. My favorite part is how the Hamas constitution claims that the Rotary Club is part of a Jewish plot to control the world. That's not crazy at all!

[Hesster]

Personally, I think the situation with Israel and the Palestinians is pretty well summed up by this political cartoon. It was done by David Horsey of the Seattle PI in 2002 (which is why Saddam is still on the board).

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20020425/cartoon20020425.gif (broken link)

[TnHilltopper]

To get back to the original topic

Is Gaza the world's largest concentration camp?

No, but it is one of the largest man made human rights disasters currently in progress.

[fasterserv]

What did you think about the Israeli Mossad agents that were caught dancing in the streets as well????? 9-11 Attacks: The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested on 9-11

Originally Posted by ottomobeale

Stopped caring when he saw them dancing on Sept 11 2001