COVID-19 in the Triangle: No Politics, Read the Rules Before Posting (value, drug)

[NM posts]

dO yOUr oWn rEsEaRcH

[BoBromhal]

Originally Posted by Starglow

The bottom line is nobody has full immunity from COVID. Nobody.

the bottom line is that nobody has 100% immunity from Covid, but those with antibodies or the vaccine have a helluva lot higher %.

[BoBromhal]

here's a disconnect ...

Originally Posted by NM posts

I personally wouldn't want to behave in such a way that is likely to put me in the hospital.

Going unvaccinated is absolutely NOT likely to put you in the hospital.

It is MORE likely, but it's not likely.

Technically, you are LESS likely to contract Covid than to catch it (about 9-1)

You are LESS likely to be hospitalized from Covid than to not (about 90-1)

And you are LESS likely to die from Covid than than (about 49-1)

[BoBromhal]

Originally Posted by NM posts

Also, this - what if you have a regret at the very last minute, as they did?

"'I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,' wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday. 'One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.'"


‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’: Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients

that young lady is most likely grandstanding.

[NM posts]

Originally Posted by BoBromhal

here's a disconnect ...



Going unvaccinated is absolutely NOT likely to put you in the hospital.

It is MORE likely, but it's not likely.

Technically, you are LESS likely to contract Covid than to catch it (about 9-1)

You are LESS likely to be hospitalized from Covid than to not (about 90-1)

And you are LESS likely to die from Covid than than (about 49-1)

The Delta variant is a game changer. I said what I said.

[NM posts]

Originally Posted by BoBromhal

that young lady is most likely grandstanding.

That "young lady" is a physician who knows more about this than you do. Sheesh do you show your a*** sometimes.

[BoBromhal]

Originally Posted by NM posts

I like discussing but I don't have the energy to keep trying to convince. Except that I probably will still try. I'm sitting here today wondering if the 12 members of my family who are in the evangelical cult in CA and OR will die of COVID and who will go first.

I could not wait to get the vaccine, was 100% all in from the beginning, but I work in research and know the safety steps taken.

Children under 12 cannot make the choice to get vaccinated or not. Remaining unvaccinated can kill them.

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this is a 17 year old boy...

May 19, after 1 week in hospital:

He is back home, for good hopefully, after another brief trip to the hospital this week. He is completing his steroid treatments today and he will get another MRI in a week to see if the inflammation has subsided. There is still no diagnosis which is good and bad. Good because they can't tie it to something serious, bad because we don't know what caused and if it will reoccur. There is nothing else to tie it to as of now, other than the second Pfizer vaccine shot.

One month later:

Unfortunately, it isn't a great update. He is undergoing steroid and IVIG treatments at Duke weekly but he continues to have seizures. It had been once per week, now he has had multiple in the last 3 days. He is currently at Wake Med, but will be going to see his doctors at Duke today. In between seizures, he is good and continues to be the great kid that he is, somehow.

[HatchChile]

So are you going to provide a link or should we take a FB post on its face value?! Also there is no official diagnosis, but they are tying it to the vaccine shot anyway? Do you see how many red flags are here for me to take this seriously? Give me the official link - let me read it.

[GVoR]

Originally Posted by NM posts

That "young lady" is a physician who knows more about this than you do. Sheesh do you show your a*** sometimes.

Yes. Yes he does. And a girl dad to boot.

[BoBromhal]

Originally Posted by NM posts

That "young lady" is a physician who knows more about this than you do. Sheesh do you show your a*** sometimes.

Yep, she finished her residency in June '19. She's smarter than I am, and she knows many multiples more about medicine than I do.

I also said "most likely", not that I'm calling her a liar.

She also wouldn't be the first medical pro that grandstanded about Covid given their personal/political opinions (and surely some have grandstanded the opposite way too).

And now, I look up Jefferson County, AL. She works in a smaller hospital there.

Positive tests/cases have risen in 60 days from ~ 60/day to 120/day but aren't higher than March
Hospitalizations are rising but lower than anytime except the month of June
No remarkable difference in deaths. the 7 day average for deaths is < 1, so the chances that this one young doctor at a smaller hospital is having this scenario as frequently as she implies isn't high, and she provides no ages beyond "young and healthy".

I have no doubt she has been there while a patient dies from Covid. I have doubts about her implied frequency and age of deaths.