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So are you going to provide a link or should we take a FB post on its face value?! Also there is no official diagnosis, but they are tying it to the vaccine shot anyway? Do you see how many red flags are here for me to take this seriously? Give me the official link - let me read it.
that is from a personal friend here in the Triangle on Facebook.
edit to add: There wasn't any disbelief when I related the story in mid-May when it first happened, and I had concerns about vaxxing my 16 yr old.
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by the way, my youngest is fully-vaxxed now. It was 5 weeks on, so I hope it's just as effective, and she only had the typical arm soreness and a single fever knocked out with ibuprofen.
by the way, my youngest is fully-vaxxed now. It was 5 weeks on, so I hope it's just as effective, and she only had the typical arm soreness and a single fever knocked out with ibuprofen.
Glad to hear she didn’t experience anything beyond the “normal” day of stuff.
Glad to hear she didn’t experience anything beyond the “normal” day of stuff.
thank you.
I hope everyone that is eligible to get vaxxed does.
I think it's crystal clear that there are far fewer negative effects from getting the vaccine than from choosing/refusing not to and contracting Covid in any of its variants.
I hope all adults that have hesitations or concerns can reach the decision to join the rest of us and get vaccinated.
Yep, she finished her residency in June '19. She's smarter than I am, and she knows many multiples more about medicine than I do.
I also said "most likely", not that I'm calling her a liar.
This is not the Mad Men era and you are way too young to be dismissing a female physician as some "young lady" with questionable credibility. I mean, really.
Not having this conversation with you any further, that was a red line.
I hope everyone that is eligible to get vaxxed does.
I think it's crystal clear that there are far fewer negative effects from getting the vaccine than from choosing/refusing not to and contracting Covid in any of its variants.
I hope all adults that have hesitations or concerns can reach the decision to join the rest of us and get vaccinated.
I was watching a Frank Luntz focus group yesterday. Frank is arguably the “best” Republican focus group/pollster; his research is generally highly regarded.
Anyway the focus group was vax hesitant GOP voters and a doctor. The doctor made a good point I hadn’t really considered.
On the topic of “long term risks” (as a reason for hesitancy) the doc said “vaccines aren’t like drugs, where long term side effects can take a long time to manifest (like organ damage from sustained use of a a drug). Vaccine side effects would be seen rather quickly based on what vaccines are, and we aren’t seeing that”. I mean we don’t hear any stories about the vaccines we all mostly get throughout our lives causing problems later in our lives (unless you’re Jenny McCarthy)
Whether it’s the issues we saw with women, or the issues we’ve seen with late teens or the GBS stuff, it is happening at such a lower incidence rate (less than one in a million in many cases; especially the GBS rate) that it’s really proving (from an efficacy v AE construct) that there really isn’t a there, there.
I was watching a Frank Luntz focus group yesterday. Frank is arguably the “best” Republican focus group/pollster; his research is generally highly regarded.
Anyway the focus group was vax hesitant GOP voters and a doctor. The doctor made a good point I hadn’t really considered.
On the topic of “long term risks” (as a reason for hesitancy) the doc said “vaccines aren’t like drugs, where long term side effects can take a long time to manifest (like organ damage from sustained use of a a drug). Vaccine side effects would be seen rather quickly based on what vaccines are, and we aren’t seeing that”. I mean we don’t hear any stories about the vaccines we all mostly get throughout our lives causing problems later in our lives (unless you’re Jenny McCarthy)
Whether it’s the issues we saw with women, or the issues we’ve seen with late teens or the GBS stuff, it is happening at such a lower incidence rate (less than one in a million in many cases; especially the GBS rate) that it’s really proving (from an efficacy v AE construct) that there really isn’t a there, there.
and I'm sure positioning it that way would convince a large % of the hesitant.
"These are all the vaccines most people have taken in their lives. When there were adverse effects, here was the %, and they occurred within 10 days of receiving the vaccine. No [or maybe only 1%?] adverse issues occurred a year later. After 6 months, here's what we know"*
I said it a week ago - you catch more flies with honey. Calling these people idiots ain't getting them over to the other side.
*And I have personally paid little attention to VAERS(?) - but it does sound like better reporting/fact-gathering would help assuage some people's concerns about transparency.
This is not the Mad Men era and you are way too young to be dismissing a female physician as some "young lady" with questionable credibility. I mean, really.
Not having this conversation with you any further, that was a red line.
You're right, I shouldn't have called her a "young lady". It was a descriptor, not a pejorative. I apologize.
You're right, I shouldn't have called her a "young lady". It was a descriptor, not a pejorative. I apologize.
Thanks.
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