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View Poll Results: Men: Would you date a woman who majored/minored in Feminist or Women's Studies?
Yes, no problem 15 41.67%
Eh, depends on whether or not she is attractive 5 13.89%
Nah, don't think I need the hassles 3 8.33%
No, and how fast can I run? 12 33.33%
Other - explain 1 2.78%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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Conversely, there are men who don't care whether feminists like them or not.
What difference does it make? Neither matter to the other, so proclamations of who likes or dislikes who has zero value.

eta: On second thought, perhaps some of you do care otherwise you wouldn't discuss it I guess.

 
Old 04-28-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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Conversely, there are men who don't care whether feminists like them or not.
"Feminists".
You mean, there are women out there who WANT to be paid less than men, be kept barefoot and pregnant, and want to repeal domestic violence laws? What, exactly, is a non-feminist?
 
Old 04-28-2012, 05:50 PM
 
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Conversely, there are men who don't care whether feminists like them or not.
No kidding, but the feminists didn't start a thread complaining about the men who don't like them.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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"Feminists".
You mean, there are women out there who WANT to be paid less than men, and kept barefoot and pregnant? What, exactly, is a non-feminist?
I believe there are women who adhere to those ideas and obviously some men who do. They have each other.
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No kidding, but the feminists didn't start a thread complaining about the men who don't like them.
Yes, right to the point.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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I'm not against feminism as a movement, but why does it seem every self-described 'feminist' I meet seems unable to tolerate you suggesting a viewpoint that differs from the predictable feminist line? If you even SUGGEST that this or this study might not be 100% scientific, she'll jump on you like an alley cat.

Keep in mind my sample size is small, maybe 5 or so, but still, it does leave you with a bad impression. I think real feminists don't need to constantly advertise the fact or harp on about it.

I would be very wary.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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"Feminists".
You mean, there are women out there who WANT to be paid less than men, be kept barefoot and pregnant, and want to repeal domestic violence laws? What, exactly, is a non-feminist?
Oh, please, typically reactionary. If there is a published wage scale, that doesn't happen. It rarely happens in the professions. In fact, I once worked for a company in the 90s where I was paid less than both a man and a woman for the same job. I had the same credentials as the woman, and the man had less credentials than I did. I found this out by seeing the billing rates on a statement, which ended in cents as a result of a multiplier. Why so? They were married, and the guy had kids. That particular place put a premium on married folks. So, what does one do? Slow down their output to calibrate the difference. Sure, women get paid less because they often take more clerical jobs. Equal pay for equal work has been here for quite a while.

What is a non-feminist? A woman who can be smart, feminine and doesn't feel her personal and professional life is an arm-wrestling match with men.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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No kidding, but the feminists didn't start a thread complaining about the men who don't like them.
No, but they're on here like flies on shyte.

Thus far, this is a thread where the "usuals" show up because the message that some women are categorically excluded by many men is not an easy pill to swallow, with me providing countering opinions. A few men have provided sarcastic or brief insightful posts.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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What is a non-feminist? A woman who can be smart, feminine and doesn't feel her personal and professional life is an arm-wrestling match with men.
This actually would include a lot of feminists. I don't think you really know what one is. (btw, they're not a homogeneous bunch.) You have some kind of cartoon image in your mind.

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Old 04-28-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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I'm not against feminism as a movement, but why does it seem every self-described 'feminist' I meet seems unable to tolerate you suggesting a viewpoint that differs from the predictable feminist line? If you even SUGGEST that this or this study might not be 100% scientific, she'll jump on you like an alley cat.

Keep in mind my sample size is small, maybe 5 or so, but still, it does leave you with a bad impression. I think real feminists don't need to constantly advertise the fact or harp on about it.

I would be very wary.
Did your argument include infringing on the rights of any humans? That's always going to get pushed back.
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No, but they're on here like flies on shyte.

Thus far, this is a thread where the "usuals" show up because the message that some women are categorically excluded by many men is not an easy pill to swallow, with me providing countering opinions. A few men have provided sarcastic or brief insightful posts.
The usual suspects in this thread, tho, did not major in women's studies. The feminists on this board comprise a gamut of majors and still find your style of argument and content to be wanting.

You want to make an argument out of you and your buddies excluding feminists as romantic partners, but again, it doesn't hold much value. Can you deal with that?
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:25 PM
 
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I'm all for equality, but I believe so-called feminism has gone too f'n far in many cases and has sorta put me off a lot of women I've met who are either closet man haters or are of the type that want to feminize men to the point that we're subdued and made to feel like monsters.

My ex was one of those man hating types. To her, men were just objects for her to use, chew up and spit out. I was one of them, but ya live and learn. Funny, because I see a lot of the same traits in many of the regular posters in Relationships. This particular corner of city data is like the female equivalent of the politics forum, same attacking in packs, except you can often find interesting stuff in the politics forum, unlike the banal nonsense that only serves as to waste bandwidth.

We're all HUMANS! isms of any kind are generally retarded and end up becoming too extremist.
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