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1. Most complaints about women are directed at attractive women. Average joes complaining about how it's so unfair they can't land the hot chick. Well dude, you're average and you're not really doing anything to better yourself. There's lots of regular women available, but you don't want them.
2. OLD does tend to skew in women's favor in regards to the who is chasing who dynamic, number of options, etc. The point above is exacerbated by the OLD rejection average Joe's receive from women they would normally think are in their league.
In general people try to play up their good side. This has been amplified in the last decade. Saying you just want a happy go lucky guy, money and status aside, sounds great. But in reality if you had the choice between the exact same guy but one had a higher level of status and resources, it's human nature to pick the more successful one. Words are just words.
No, you're missing the point. You're still assuming you're going to find someone. It's like your home is on hold waiting for someone. Make it into a home for you now. It can always be changed. You may meet someone next week, in 10 years, or never. No reason to keep it a shell until you do in case someone someday may want to move in.
My impression from his posts is that the OP hasn't been involved with a woman in many years, as all of his examples are from decades ago.
OP, what happened to your wife and kids? Can you fill us in on your history a bit?
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In general people try to play up their good side. This has been amplified in the last decade. Saying you just want a happy go lucky guy, money and status aside, sounds great. But in reality if you had the choice between the exact same guy but one had a higher level of status and resources, it's human nature to pick the more successful one. Words are just words.
The reality is that emotional connections and chemistry is never, ever, ever exactly the same. People don't fall in love with checklists or traits. They fall in love with individuals. And almost everyone would choose the person they have better chemistry with and an emotional connection to.
The reality is that emotional connections and chemistry is never, ever, ever exactly the same. People don't fall in love with checklists or traits. They fall in love with individuals. And almost everyone would choose the person they have better chemistry with and an emotional connection to.
"Exact same guy." Are you putting stipulations on my entirely made up hypothetical scenario??
How could the "exact same guy" have a better job, more money, etc.? That makes no sense. They will be inherently different because of the manner that one acquired more resources than the other.
How could the "exact same guy" have a better job, more money, etc.? That makes no sense. They will be inherently different because of the manner that one acquired more resources than the other.
I'm gonna pop this balloon right now because I'm not gonna argue about an entirely made up hypothetical scenario.
The reality is that emotional connections and chemistry is never, ever, ever exactly the same. People don't fall in love with checklists or traits. They fall in love with individuals. And almost everyone would choose the person they have better chemistry with and an emotional connection to.
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I'm gonna pop this balloon right now because I'm not gonna argue about an entirely made up hypothetical scenario.
My point, which seems to have been missed, is that many people will say things that sound good but at the end of the day, status matters. Whether it's monetary or social, it matters, especially for men.
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"Exact same guy." Are you putting stipulations on my entirely made up hypothetical scenario??
If its the exact same guy, there can't be two people to choose from, by definition. And even if it were two people with the same list of exact traits and features, the emotional connection and chemistry with them is never the "exact same".
You're trying to make this into an economics example with "all other features being equal" to show changes to actions/reactions based on modifying of a couple of criteria on an axis. That doesn't work with interpersonal relationships at all. It fundamentally misunderstands human dynamics.
If its the exact same guy, there can't be two people to choose from, by definition. And even if it were two people with the same list of exact traits and features, the emotional connection and chemistry with them is never the "exact same".
You're trying to make this into an economics example with "all other features being equal" to show changes to actions/reactions based on modifying of a couple of criteria on an axis. That doesn't work with interpersonal relationships at all. It fundamentally misunderstands human dynamics.
Is this another case of an inexperienced guy trying to use binary logic to understand women and relationships?
Why is this so common on this forum? I never see guys act like this in real life.
Is this another case of an inexperienced guy trying to use binary logic to understand women and relationships?
Why is this so common on this forum? I never see guys act like this in real life.
I'm far from inexperienced and I already walked away from the example. Jesus lady calm down.
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