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OP, how do you explain all the success of the millions of men in your situation who manage to form the sort of relationship you want? When all womens plays the games?
Well, I don't believe that millions of men have what I want in terms of a relationship. For starters, I'm not exactly sure what I want anymore. I use to think I wanted a relationship and now I don't know that it's worth the investment, not based on what I've seen so far. The point of the thread was that I agree with what the author wrote in the article and was hoping to get other's thoughts on what she wrote.
Depends on what you mean by success. If success is getting laid, then sure, guys are having lots of success.
Yes, but that's a problem for men like me who are tired of dating and just want a LTR. People like me want to date longer to get to know our partner better before getting closer in our relationship (like sex).
The author is too young to generalize this very much, or see outside a narrow range, and young people are churning with an even higher level of certain hormones (testosterone hasn't started to fall yet in men, for example) so yeah. Hookups. If you let it be that. Or not, if you put the brakes on.
Exactly like 10 years ago...20...30...that's as far as I go so that's all I'll speak for.
Don't take my word for it. Read the article I posted if you don't believe me. We know there's at least one more person out there that thinks the modern dating scene needs some change. I'd imagine she's not the only woman who feels that way.
I read the article. I was one of the first to reply, remember?
My comment was in response to more rapey talk from you. The old, “They’re playing games even though they don’t know they are...” entitled mess again.
Did your therapist not pick up on that?? That’s as big a problem as the dishonesty the writer talks about.
"We live in a world where people are afraid to feel anything genuine, or at the very least, are afraid to show it. When someone is angry with you, there’s no phone call asking to talk about it. Instead you get a passive aggressive response to a text message or a suspiciously relevant subtweet, quietly calling you out in 140 characters or less. If you like someone, you don’t tell them how you feel; rather you act interested enough for them to pick up on it, but not enough to freak them out. Don’t like it? Too bad. It’s all a big game and if you don’t play by the rules then you lose, and if you lose you end up alone and drowning in a pile of your own insecurity, wondering what you did wrong."
Yes, but that's a problem for men like me who are tired of dating and just want a LTR. People like me want to date longer to get to know our partner better before getting closer in our relationship (like sex).
I think the author in the OP article feels the same way, as do I. It’s a genuine connection I’m looking for, something to build upon. I most certainly don’t view sex as my ultimate goal and I don’t think most do. Sex with someone you don’t love is just glorified masturbation. I have more connection with my right hand than the last 2 women I had sex with, whom I met onine. I’ll say I’m glad though when I read articles like this as it means the younger generation is seeing the problem and wants to fix it.
My comment was in response to more rapey talk from you. The old, “They’re playing games even though they don’t know they are...” entitled mess again.
like the clueless losers that send multiple messages, with no response...but I guess it works because that's the only way they can get any attention from women, is to harass them until they finally respond, just to tell them to F* off, and/or block them...(and then they just make up another profile (because they've been blocked so many times), and then do it again.) ugh.
I think the author in the OP article feels the same way, as do I.
It’s a genuine connection I’m looking for, something to build upon.
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I most certainly don’t view sex as my ultimate goal and I don’t think most do.
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Sex with someone you don’t love is just glorified masturbation.
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..... the last 2 women I had sex with, whom I met online.
Ok, now if this author had brought up this subject as a representation of "modern dating" then I guess my experiences DO coincide. Thanks for proving the fact that everyone's different, LH. It's so sexist to still believe that it's the the woman who always wants more. When she doesn't, the guys always left puzzled by his "feelings".
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