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So all of the witnesses fell victim to a shared delusion or hallucination? They were there to witness a marriage. One would think at least one person would notice if a ceremony didn't happen.
You would think, but we all know that stranger things have happened in this saga.
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Interesting. So a woman who knowingly has an affair with a married/partnered man is not guilty of anything?
Not infidelity.
I don't blame people for that for anything, personally, except perhaps poor judgment if they expect more to come from it.
The married/committed (again, assuming monogamy... which is not something to assume, there are A LOT of open marriages and relationships out there) person is the one that made the commitment. Not the third party. They are the one doing wrong.
I don't blame people for that for anything, personally, except perhaps poor judgment if they expect more to come from it.
The married/committed (again, assuming monogamy... which is not something to assume, there are A LOT of open marriages and relationships out there) person is the one that made the commitment. Not the third party. They are the one doing wrong.
I'm curious why you seem to feel strongly about this? I can see that the married person has a particular and more significant culpability, but aren't you contributing to that if you are their affair partner? If you help someone steal the answers to an ACT test, but you don't use the answers yourself, aren't you contributing to whatever harm comes from someone having the answers?
And if your thinking is that someone will cheat if they're inclined to cheat, do you know that? Perhaps their weak moment will pass if you pause the momentum of whatever is developing between the two of you.
Really, why would you involve yourself in something that is likely to be messy at best? You typically contend that people to bang are a dime a dozen, so why engage someone who is risking a lot more than you are?
There doesn't need to be a ceremony, at least not everywhere. In Massachusetts a friend of mine just met a local bar here with the appropriately empowered official and signed the docs. Married.
That is irrelevant. Belle indicated that she married at a courthouse in NC, the state where she has lived her entire life. NC doesn't recognize common law marriage. Either a civil or religious ceremony is required, so she would have had one or the other, most likely a civil ceremony at the courthouse since that is where she thinks they married, and it would have been recorded there. She claimed she had witnesses too.
To be clear about what must happen in NC for a valid marriage (summarized from the Wake County Register of Deeds website, and uh ... I've been through this a couple of times):
* Both parties apply for the marriage license in person at the courthouse (Registry of Deeds), providing proof of identification and SSN, and pay $60. If either party had a marriage end in last 12 months, proof of divorce or a death certificate is also required.
* Marriage license is issued and is good for 60 days
* Marriage ceremony can then be performed by an ordained minister, a magistrate, or a federally or state-recognized Indian Nation or tribe. There must be two witnesses who sign the paperwork. If a magistrate performs the ceremony, it is done at the courthouse / Justice Center (depending on the county).
* The officiant files the paperwork. The officiant may also provide a certificate to the couple, but it is just a keepsake, not the legit marriage certificate.
* The legal marriage certificate can be obtained from the Register of Deeds for that county.
So Belle needs to determine if she went "downtown" twice -- once for a license and once for a marriage ceremony by the magistrate. All of this can be cleared up quite easily by calling the Register of Deeds in the county in which they were allegedly married.
Probably doesn't want to upset his other wife and children.
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