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Do you wonder if they actually saw the injustices on their own or if they had wifes, mothers and daughters on their heals pushing for change.
Or......loyal sons who love their moms and couldn't handle the injustice, sons who watched their fathers abuse or berate their moms? Let's not forget, there really ARE some men out there who treated their women very well and respectfully, even when it wasn't popular to do so.
Agreed..... if we're truly honest about it...we sexes are equally to blame for this stuff. It's terrible, too..because no one, single gender is innocent of doing so. Individuals might be blameless, the the gender, as a whole, is not. There are good and bad people in both genders. It's really not fair to judge everyone, based on the experience of some.
You know, something else that hasn't been discussed here? Men had the power. Oh I know that there were some strong women out there who fought like mad for women's rights, dont' get me wrong. We need to realize though, that there were men (they had the power)...but there were men out there who saw the injustices against women. We women wouldn't have the rights we have today if it weren't for the backing of some really great men out there. That seems to be something that a lot of women....AND men, forget.
I have to disagree on the equal blame part....as you said, "Men had the power"...for centuries....and abused it.
Yes, there are male feminists, always have been, but women could've done it without them....as they do so many other things.
I'm sure this might be true for some women, but not all. I myself am a rape survivor. I still have a great sense of humor, I can dish it out and take this type of humor. Only one man raped me, not all men.
That's great for you but all women are NOT the same, as all PEOPLE are not the same, all RAPES are not the same....all reactions aren't the same.
The point is that IN THE WORKPLACE humans should feel safe from abuse..sexual innuendos, jokes, are not professional....if one has a NEED for this there's always the saloon after work.
That's great for you but all women are NOT the same, as all PEOPLE are not the same, all RAPES are not the same....all reactions aren't the same.
The point is that IN THE WORKPLACE humans should feel safe from abuse..sexual innuendos, jokes, are not professional....if one has a NEED for this there's always the saloon after work.
What part of "SOME WOMEN" don't you understand? I said SOME WOMEN. You really need to get a grip.
I have to disagree on the equal blame part....as you said, "Men had the power"...for centuries....and abused it.
Yes, there are male feminists, always have been, but women could've done it without them....as they do so many other things.
Inquiring minds want to know:
How precisely DID men "have the power", what was this power, how did they abuse it and since they apparently no longer have said power, what are women doing differently with it?
What part of "SOME WOMEN" don't you understand? I said SOME WOMEN. You really need to get a grip.
You posted:"""
Originally Posted by SexyBrownEyes I'm sure this might be true for some women, but not all. I myself am a rape survivor. I still have a great sense of humor, I can dish it out and take this type of humor. Only one man raped me, not all men.""
....your point of view but at the end you wrote "Only one man raped me, not all men.""
as if other women should "get a grip" and not let it bother them. If you didn't mean that, sorry I took it that way.
That's great for you but all women are NOT the same, as all PEOPLE are not the same, all RAPES are not the same....all reactions aren't the same.
The point is that IN THE WORKPLACE humans should feel safe from abuse..sexual innuendos, jokes, are not professional....if one has a NEED for this there's always the saloon after work.
How precisely DID men "have the power", what was this power, how did they abuse it and since they apparently no longer have said power, what are women doing differently with it?
If you have never cracked a history book...sheesh, I can't start now.. I can't type that much..what do we have..... how many thousands of years of written history...and you've never learned any of it?
You posted:"""
Originally Posted by SexyBrownEyes I'm sure this might be true for some women, but not all. I myself am a rape survivor. I still have a great sense of humor, I can dish it out and take this type of humor. Only one man raped me, not all men.""
....your point of view but at the end you wrote "Only one man raped me, not all men.""
as if other women should "get a grip" and not let it bother them. If you didn't mean that sorry I took it that way.
No, I didn't mean it that way, my point was just because one man hurt me, I don't punish the rest of the male population for it.
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If you have never cracked a history book...sheesh, I can't start now.. I can't type that much
..what do we have..... how many thousands of years of written history...and you've never learned any of it?