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Old 04-20-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Why would you assume that most people read this differently? Do you have some higher insight? Had you never noticed these bible quotations before?

What do you think?
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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What do you think?
You don't really want to know what I think.

However, I think most people serious about their Bible-based religion have already read about the immaculate conception and virgin birth, gaining a basic understanding of what it means.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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You don't really want to know what I think.

However, I think most people serious about their Bible-based religion have already read about the immaculate conception and virgin birth, gaining a basic understanding of what it means.

I am serious about my belief, and the virgin birth was just another in the long line of the proofs of God that I am seeing.

The world can only deny so many proofs, but the future unfolding will provide pain staking proofs which I wish God wouldnot unleash. But I think he's going to let the dogs out, the likes of which this world has never seen.

But I have seen end of story, we will survive and come out of it destined to be in the same consciousness as Christ. I have an announcement to make; we all will survive!
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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But I have seen end of story, we will survive and come out of it destined to be in the same consciousness as Christ. I have an announcement to make; we all will survive!
Oiy vez! Now he's a prophet!
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Oiy vez! Now he's a prophet!

No, I am nowhere near that vain and distorted about me. I simply can read! Its there for you to read as well.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Oiy vez! Now he's a prophet!

I would like to be a Prophet, but I already know they are no longer needed. Once Jesus hit the world scene, all things became a done deal.
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Oiy vez! Now he's a prophet!

Good news, I just gave my first prophecy; no life will ever be created in a lab.
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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Good news, I just gave my first prophecy; no life will ever be created in a lab.
Are you holding yourself to the Biblical standards of a prophet? Should you be put to death if life is created in a lab? That is what the Bible prescribes for false prophets...

Maybe being a prophet isn't all it is cracked up to be.

-NoCapo
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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Good news, I just gave my first prophecy; no life will ever be created in a lab.
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Are you holding yourself to the Biblical standards of a prophet? Should you be put to death if life is created in a lab? That is what the Bible prescribes for false prophets...

Maybe being a prophet isn't all it is cracked up to be.

-NoCapo
The only danger is in the redefinition of life and its creation that is likely to be employed in any such claims. They already have people attempting to attribute "lifelike" actions to inorganic materials as a precursor to "creating" life from inert material. Of course the only artificial life created so far was a cheat in that it used existing life components and just modified the DNA. But any future claims of "creating" life in a laboratory is very likely to be via a similar route. About this issue there is no such thing as scientific objectivity or integrity. Mimickry is not creation, period . . . i.e., "make your own dirt."
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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The only danger is in the redefinition of life and its creation that is likely to be employed in any such claims. They already have people attempting to attribute "lifelike" actions to inorganic materials as a precursor to "creating" life from inert material. Of course the only artificial life created so far was a cheat in that it used existing life components and just modified the DNA. But any future claims of "creating" life in a laboratory is very likely to be via a similar route. About this issue there is no such thing as scientific objectivity or integrity. Mimickry is not creation, period . . . i.e., "make your own dirt."
Sure, but we have no objective reason to conclude it is categorically impossible, we just have not yet done it. I agree that stuffing artificial DNA into an existing cell structure is not creating life, it is just an experiment that tells us something about the way cells are put together. Same with the lab creation of RNA. It isn't life but it points us in directions that may lead to the creation of life. The only way to know is to try.
I honestly have no idea if the artificial creation of a living organism is possible, or if it is that it will be done within my lifetime. I just know that aside from theological positions there doesn't appear to be any reason why it is impossible, just difficult.

-NoCapo
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