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Old 05-25-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I find it astounding, that you guys are acting like you get your feelings hurt at someone suggesting that someone may not go to heaven, when we see all of you virtually slapping each other on the back and having virtual group hugs to declare Christianity and specifically those that actually believe the Bible to be a bunch of wackos.

Seriously.
I'm not taking anything that happens on this board personally Viz. Whatever I say to you is more of an indictment against the systems I see as holding humanity back. You can let me have it if you wish. I didn't say wacko. I was raised in, I get it. I see this as a distortion of perception. I see this as what happens when you subject humans to that kind of indoctrination. When I see someone under the influence I mostly see a victim. There are some that I think are users of the system they are in but the vast majority are just getting used. Yeah, I see see how that sounds arrogant but I don't know any other way to put it.

I don't expect a True Believer to see me as anything other than an ahole. I don't expect them to treat me any differently than if I was one. Considering the nature of what we are discussing I think the responsibility to choose my words wisely is on me more so than you. I will sometimes point out when someone is hating on the haters but that largely goes ignored anyway.
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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I don't expect a True Believer to see me as anything other than an ahole. I don't expect them to treat me any differently than if I was one. Considering the nature of what we are discussing I think the responsibility to choose my words wisely is on me more so than you. I will sometimes point out when someone is hating on the haters but that largely goes ignored anyway.
So why are you intentionally making posts that you believe we would think negatively of you?
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: USA
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He didn't say that you said it was based on race. Now who is putting words into someone else's mouth?


He was saying, as others have, that your "I didn't say that" mantra rings hollow, much like those KKK members who say they like black people.
Correct.

Viz, you've gone on the record as saying that all non-Christians deserve an infinite amount of punishment until they become a Christian. As the Bible and Jesus teach. That means we Unbelievers are infinitely bad, and deserve an indefinite amount punishment from the Christian God directly or via His Chosen Representatives on Earth (that would be you).

You've even said that all non-Christians deserve to be killed by your God.

So when you use the "where did I say that?" gambit, it's a little annoying.
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Correct.

Viz, you've gone on the record as saying that all non-Christians deserve an infinite amount of punishment until they become a Christian. As the Bible and Jesus teach. That means we Unbelievers are infinitely bad, and deserve an indefinite amount punishment from the Christian God directly or via His Chosen Representatives on Earth (that would be you).
As are all Christians, but not for the grace of God. Congratulations, Freak--you're completely average with the rest of all mankind--me included.
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You've even said that all non-Christians deserve to be killed by your God.
As do all Christians, but by God's grace.
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So when you use the "where did I say that non-Christians are second class?" gambit, it's a little annoying.
No. I still don't see your issue.
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Jesus is real whoever believes in Him as one who receives the Holy Spirit one knows that he has received something very special and wants to abide in Him along with wanting to serve. Nobody can tell one any different, they may ridicule one or make fun but one knows that one has something special.
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I've never said that. Please stop lying about me.

That's what Jesus said. Your beef is with Jesus, not me.

...snip...
Hiding behind Jesus' apron. Further evidence of the cowardice that characterizes fundamentalists.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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Hiding behind Jesus' apron. Further evidence of the cowardice that characterizes fundamentalists.
Of course it is. And that's what anyone who identifies as a Christian should do -- ride Jesus' coattails. He must increase, and I must decrease. it's not about me.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Of course it is. And that's what anyone who identifies as a Christian should do -- ride Jesus' coattails. He must increase, and I must decrease. it's not about me.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Of course it is. And that's what anyone who identifies as a Christian should do -- ride Jesus' coattails. He must increase, and I must decrease. it's not about me.
Coat tails?

Now I am going to spend the rest of the day imagining Jesus wearing a tux. Thanks.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Now your hurt, which I expected, one can dish it out but they can't take it, a bully indeed
You, like Viz, seem to think people are "hurt" when they point out the ignorance you guys spew. That isn't the case. I have very thick skin, and you couldn't hurt me if you tried little man.
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