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Old 06-25-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Yes I have. I have spoken to every single man who has ever gone to a strip club.
That was you? I remember talking to someone...
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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So we should ignore one problem that has a clear solution in favor of another? That's what your side does. Instead of admitting that there is a problem, you just to deflect by shifting the blame elsewhere.

The 7 deadly sins isn't even in the Bible, but this verse is:

"Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality" 1 Corinthians 6:9
We realize there are problem--

with guns, government control, drugs, greed, capitalism, child abuse, domestic violence etc...all things the evangelical cultists are either good with or profiting from..
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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The 7 deadly sins isn't even in the Bible, but this verse is:

"Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality" 1 Corinthians 6:9
Jeff is yet again attempting to mislead the readers of this thread with a falsified Bible text, the original of which he knows never contained the term 'homosexuality'. I'm truly getting sick of this as Jeff has been reprimanded several times previously for doing the very same thing. I can only trust that the reader will see through the deception.

That very same passage of scripture, 1 Corinthians 6:9, as taken from the King James Version of the Bible reads:


9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, etc.

The anti-gay brigade have virtually bent over backwards in recent years to get "abusers of themselves with mankind" to equate to "homosexuality" but they are beating a dead horse. And, deep down, they know it. The term is ambiguous. It could mean any one of a number of things, or none of them. No one knows what Paul is talking about here. And, no one knows what the meaning of the Greek term used for "abusers of themselves with mankind" (arsenokoitai) actually means eitther. And so, with an anti-gay agenda to uphold, they came up with "homosexuality" all by themselves! They are re-writing scripture, the very thing that the Bible tells them NOT to do!

WHATEVER Paul is referencing in 1 Corinthians 6:9 he is NOT referring to any of us in our day and age anyway! Even if he was. Paul was a mere mortal just like the rest of us and has NO AUTHORITY to determine for God who WILL and who WILL NOT inherit the kingdom of heaven!
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Gotta love conspiracy theories. But, they Alex Jones rolling in money.

There are no secrets. It is impossible for every person involved from the victims, the responders, the police, the trauma workers would have to agree this was faked.

Crisis actors? Every Dr? Every Nurse? Every Police Officer?

That is a lot of people keeping a secret.

I do not believe conspiracy theories. They promote fear mongering.
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:12 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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So we should ignore one problem that has a clear solution in favor of another? That's what your side does. Instead of admitting that there is a problem, you just to deflect by shifting the blame elsewhere.

The 7 deadly sins isn't even in the Bible, but this verse is:

"Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality" 1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men


Strange, my bible does not use the term Homosexuality???


And are they not talking about male prostitution and child molesters? That is if one believes a word Paulie is supposedly written
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men


Strange, my bible does not use the term Homosexuality???


And are they not talking about male prostitution and child molesters? That is if one believes a word Paulie is supposedly written
I'd suggest you get a new translation. As the apostle wrote it in Greek it was clear that he was referring also to homosexuals.
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men


Strange, my bible does not use the term Homosexuality???


And are they not talking about male prostitution and child molesters? That is if one believes a word Paulie is supposedly written


You should know that the kingdom of heaven referred to in that scripture is talking about the higher zoe kingdom where we see so many saved people escorted out because they did not obtain a good enough resurrection to reside in the Holy of holies when all was said and done, we still see those people alive, saved but outside the city.


Just like Jesus said, '' You can speak against the son of man{Jesus} and be forgiven and you can decide not to keep the laws of Moses and even teach others not to keep in and STILL be saved but you are the least, that scripture refers to the higher abundant life Zoe kingdom and the temple has 3 sections so that we can know what the kingdom of heaven is.


LOL, I know, Just repeating things huh.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:56 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I believe the OP will get a much better response if they just visit a church and get the peoples prospective of their view on this topic there than placing it here.
Why would I want to go to a place that tells fairy tales to the audience?
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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Why would I want to go to a place that tells fairy tales to the audience?
Again...not really helpful. Stuff like that just makes you look mean-spirited and it makes us not want to engage in conversation. But hey...it does get a round of applause from the naysayers on the board, and that's what you're after, isn't it?
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Again...not really helpful. Stuff like that just makes you look mean-spirited and it makes us not want to engage in conversation. But hey...it does get a round of applause from the naysayers on the board, and that's what you're after, isn't it?
He was directing his comment at myself, and as such, seeing he was being so over the top judgmental, I figured the response was appropriate. And accurate. And myths.

As illustrated here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...ology<br /> "

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Excerpt from "BIBLE MYTHS AND THEIR PARALLELS IN OTHER RELIGIONS BEING A COMPARISON OF THE Old and New Testament Myths and Miracles WITH Those of Heathen Nations of Antiquity CONSIDERING ALSO THEIR ORIGIN AND MEANING" (some title, huh?) by T. W. DOANE, 1892 (no copyright anymore)

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/31885...5-h.htm#Page_1

The Zend-Avesta—the sacred writings of the Parsees—states that the Supreme being Ahuramazdâ (Ormuzd), created the universe and man in six successive periods of time, in the following order: First, the Heavens; second, the Waters; third, the Earth; fourth, the Trees and Plants; fifth, Animals; and sixth, Man. After the Creator had finished his work, he rested.[7:2]

The Avesta account of the Creation is limited to this announcement, but we find a more detailed history of the origin of the human species in the book entitled Bundehesh, dedicated to the exposition of a complete cosmogony. This book states that Ahuramazdâ created the first man and women joined together at the back. After dividing them, he endowed them with motion and activity, placed within them an intelligent soul, and bade them "to be humble of heart; to observe the law; to be pure in their thoughts, pure in their speech, pure in their actions." Thus were born Mashya and Mashyâna, the pair from which all human beings are descended.[7:3]
Since you claim to be so learned, you MUST know that two of the early Church Fathers, Origen and Augustine, both interpreted Genesis metaphorically, rejecting literal interpretations. It ain't new to call the bible a myth.

Some more light (really!) reading, showing the bible itself shows it is mythological, with chapter and verse.:

10 scriptures that reveal the Bible is mythology
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