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Old 09-18-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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They are polygamist in this life as well.


Explain how man with only one legal wife, that only has sexual relations and co habitates with one woman , is a polygamist in this life as well, without reference to a spiritual dimension of the sealing that has no bearing in this physical life .

Or to get more specific to your situation, explain how your wife's ex husband is a polygamist in a real physical, legal sense in this world, and not in the spiritual view of a church neither of you belong to anymore .

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Old 09-18-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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The two couldn't be more opposed. Catholics are against divorce, so they don't recognize a second marriage. That is in no way similar to what we are talking about.

The person you are replying to, his wife's ex-husband did NOT have to get unsealed before he could marry again. He simply got sealed to a second woman. Which they (the church) were pleased as punch about it, but his ex-wife is not, she doesn't want to be sealed to him anymore. Which is apparently too bad according to the church. They won't allow her to get unsealed unless she is getting sealed to another Mormon man who can lead her to Exaltation in the afterlife. It has nothing whatsoever to do with disapproval of divorce and everything to do with how all the spirit stuff is the most important stuff.


The post you quoted was not about the marriage issues, but was to a different poster . Nonetheless the rules regarding second marriages in Mormon and Catholic Churches are similar . Both are merely religious rules that have no bearing in any legal sense . Both Mormons and Catholics can divorce and remarry without either churches approval. The churches may refuse to recognize the divorce and subsequent marriage , but it only matters in church policy and not in any legal sense .
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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The post you quoted was not about the marriage issues, but was to a different poster . Nonetheless the rules regarding second marriages in Mormon and Catholic Churches are similar . Both are merely religious rules that have no bearing in any legal sense . Both Mormons and Catholics can divorce and remarry without either churches approval. The churches may refuse to recognize the divorce and subsequent marriage , but it only matters in church policy and not in any legal sense .
The topic is religious doctrine, not USG laws. Mormons and Catholics could not be more different on this issue.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:34 PM
 
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Explain how man with only one legal wife, that only has sexual relations and co habitates with one woman , is a polygamist in this life as well, without reference to a spiritual dimension of the sealing that has no bearing in this physical life .
It is Mormon polygamy, as defined by the Mormon church.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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It is Mormon polygamy, as defined by the Mormon church.


I specifically said not using the spiritual aspect of a church you don't belong to .
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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I specifically said not using the spiritual aspect of a church you don't belong to .
That makes no sense. The entire discussion is about their religious beliefs, which include the spiritual realm, it's the most important part of it all, and of what consequence is it that he left the church? His knowledge was zapped upon leaving?
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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The topic is religious doctrine, not USG laws. Mormons and Catholics could not be more different on this issue.

The reference to Catholics was made by me to show that both are merely church rules that only matter within the respective churches, and as such does not need your approval . Thanks anyway
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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The reference to Catholics was made by me to show that both are merely church rules that only matter within the respective churches, and as such does not need your approval . Thanks anyway
The discussion is religious Doctrine, not my approval or disapproval. The two are nothing alike regarding marriages and divorces and re-marriages and polygamous marriages. Nothing alike.
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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That makes no sense. The entire discussion is about their religious beliefs, which include the spiritual realm, it's the most important part of it all, and of what consequence is it that he left the church? His knowledge was zapped upon leaving?


No it is about whether the Mormons still practice polygamy. They don't, except in some spiritual sense relevant only to church members . You both are trying to use arcane religious rituals applicable only inside the church to claim that Mormons still practice actual polygamy . Nobody cares about their spiritual marriages except them . They no longer practice actual polygamy. End of story .
 
Old 09-18-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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No it is about whether the Mormons still practice polygamy. They don't, except in some spiritual sense relevant only to church members . You both are trying to use arcane religious rituals applicable only inside the church to claim that Mormons still practice actual polygamy . Nobody cares about their spiritual marriages except them .
Their beliefs are the topic of the discussion.
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