Satan isn’t a liar after all... (Eve, Jesus, devil)

[kjw47]

Originally Posted by Rafius

Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets. 2 Chronicles 18:22
Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. Jeremiah 4:10
O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jeremiah 20:7
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. Ezekiel 14:9
For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11

I am confident in an underlying meaning that goes along with those words.

[TRANSPONDER]

Originally Posted by kjw47

I am confident in an underlying meaning that goes along with those words.

You have Faith that it means not what it actually says, but what you would prefer it to mean.

[Arach Angle]

satan will use the truth, well, 1/2 of it that is. Milli-mental atheist and fundy theist are an excellent example of that type of creature.

[Arach Angle]

Originally Posted by TRANSPONDER

You have Faith that it means not what it actually says, but what you would prefer it to mean.

You blatantly change facts to suit your belief statement. You actually use the word 'semantics" when the facts put your belief in the "far less valid" bin.

run trans run away. like a good little faith-based belief system does when it bumps up against a more valid claim.

[Rafius]

Originally Posted by kjw47

I am confident in an underlying meaning that goes along with those words.

In other words, you don't want to accept what is written and thus be proven wrong with your claim that your god doesn't lie. You would prefer to believe that it means something other than what it actually says...which is rather typical of those who have been indoctrinated to reject all forms of verifiable evidence in favour of something that suits them better.

Originally Posted by TRANSPONDER

You have Faith that it means not what it actually says, but what you would prefer it to mean.

Exactly old toe-rag.

[rstevens62]

Originally Posted by Arach Angle

satan will use the truth, well, 1/2 of it that is. Milli-mental atheist and fundy theist are an excellent example of that type of creature.

If satan supposedly rebelled against God and heaven, why would he be doing any of these things or engaging in such behavior in the first place?

[kjw47]

Originally Posted by rstevens62

If satan supposedly rebelled against God and heaven, why would he be doing any of these things or engaging in such behavior in the first place?

The bible says he got jealous and wanted worship.

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by kjw47

The bible says he got jealous and wanted worship.

No, the Bible say no such thing...

[rstevens62]

Originally Posted by kjw47

The bible says he got jealous and wanted worship.

Where does it say that or even allude to that?

Besides that, lets go with your theory..if Satan desired worship and was jealous of God, he rebels, convinces 1/3 of the other angels to side with him and they get booted out of heaven as a result...Where is the logic then in God giving satan the ability to influence humans to the degree he has?

Look at this way...if you were married and had kids, and there was this other guy who was jealous of what you had and tried to steal it away and take your spot, so you fight with him and kick him out of your life, but then turn around and ALLOW this guy access and influence to your family??

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by rstevens62

Where does it say that or even allude to that?

Besides that, lets go with your theory..if Satan desired worship and was jealous of God, he rebels, convinces 1/3 of the other angels to side with him and they get booted out of heaven as a result...Where is the logic then in God giving satan the ability to influence humans to the degree he has?

Look at this way...if you were married and had kids, and there was this other guy who was jealous of what you had and tried to steal it away and take your spot, so you fight with him and kick him out of your life, but then turn around and ALLOW this guy access and influence to your family??