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Old 10-21-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Melachim I - I Kings - Chapter 6

13 And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake My people, Israel.

Either G-d lied or you have...
if you walk in My statutes, carry out My ordinances, and keep all My commandments by walking in them, I will fulfill through you the promise I made to your father David. 13And I will dwell among the Israelites and will not abandon My people Israel.”

BIG 2 letter word Let's not say who is lying, but who is kidding himself
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Old 10-21-2018, 10:38 PM
 
Location: US
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if you walk in My statutes, carry out My ordinances, and keep all My commandments by walking in them, I will fulfill through you the promise I made to your father David. 13And I will dwell among the Israelites and will not abandon My people Israel.”

BIG 2 letter word Let's not say who is lying, but who is kidding himself

Melachim I - I Kings - Chapter 6

12 (Concerning) this house which you are building, if you walk in My statutes, and execute My ordinances, and keep all My commandments to walk in them; then will I establish My word with you, which I spoke to David your father.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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if you walk in My statutes, carry out My ordinances, and keep all My commandments by walking in them, I will fulfill through you the promise I made to your father David. 13And I will dwell among the Israelites and will not abandon My people Israel.”

BIG 2 letter word Let's not say who is lying, but who is kidding himself
That is just one scripture and where did you get it from? We begin at the mountain, and then Israel evolved where there came a split with two kingdoms, and then Northern Israel losing their kingdom because they did the same things Christians do in becoming lawless and pagan, and then Judah was left alone.

Why don't you quote the promises God spoke to Judah where there IS NO STIPULATIONS. God has promised to save AND EXALT JUDAH NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO.

Why don't you quote Zechariah, or Hosea, or many other places that show God humbling the nations where all the kings of the nations gather the wealth of the nations to sit at the feet of Judah if you think you want to be honest with yourself because you sure aint.

You don't even believe the word, just like dude, you grab one scripture while throwing all the rest out the window.

Why don't you quote Joel 3 and be honest with yourself?


God comes to exalt them in front all the nations because they bear his name, and because they are the only people who are willing to follow his ways, not you, and not KJ. THE JEWS ALONE FOLLOW GOD, AND THE JEWS ALONE ARE HATED FOR FOLLOWING GOD, HE IS COMING TO JUDGE THE NATIONS IN HOW THEY TREATED ISRAEL.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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if you walk in My statutes, carry out My ordinances, and keep all My commandments by walking in them, I will fulfill through you the promise I made to your father David. 13And I will dwell among the Israelites and will not abandon My people Israel.”

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Do you walk in his judgments and statutes? Do you keep God's commandments?
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Well, Hanni, to answer your questions, it's because I don't believe that all the contradictions and varied descriptions are messages FROM God, but perceptions and hopes of men.
You can have all the traditions and religion you prefer, but You are not going to get me to think that there is any value in it but what you make. The message of Christ is quite simple and it is not about any religious forms, it's about a commitment to a way of life.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You thought there was enough value to take a scripture to insinuated that God somehow doesn't love his own people anymore.

The plan of Messiah was to add to the nation, it is never going to change. If we claim that we are under a new covenant made for Ephraim and Judah, we must first BE Ephraim or Judah and Gentiles are certainly not Judah, Gentiles are grafted and adopted, and it is this adoption INTO ISRAEL that concerns Gentiles.

We claim a covenant through a marriage to a Jew, and we were to become one people with Jews. Look around, does it appear to you that you are one with Jews keeping the religion of God? Does it appear to you that Gentiles have become one with Jews to where they can say that they havd been adopted of grafted?

NO, this adoption ended 2000 years ago when Gentiles stopped joining Jews in the religion of God.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Sheffield, England
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One thing that is obvious is that Satan is far less of a liar than "God" in his various forms throughout the Bible.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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Well, Hanni, to answer your questions, it's because I don't believe that all the contradictions and varied descriptions are messages FROM God, but perceptions and hopes of men.
You can have all the traditions and religion you prefer, but You are not going to get me to think that there is any value in it but what you make. The message of Christ is quite simple and it is not about any religious forms, it's about a commitment to a way of life.
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Old 10-24-2018, 01:51 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Well, Hanni, to answer your questions, it's because I don't believe that all the contradictions and varied descriptions are messages FROM God, but perceptions and hopes of men.
You can have all the traditions and religion you prefer, but You are not going to get me to think that there is any value in it but what you make. The message of Christ is quite simple and it is not about any religious forms, it's about a commitment to a way of life.
So it seems that you have pretty much answered (not to say collapsed) Hannibal's question, because the Bible as a list of commandments, rules and directives are not incumbent on you. And you're not the only one that sees it that way.

I'm just curious - do you see Jesus as some kind of divinely inspired (if not actually divine) person,or just a particularly smart and thoughtful Jew who came up with some pretty good advice about how to live?
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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One thing that is obvious is that Satan is far less of a liar than "God" in his various forms throughout the Bible.

Not once did God lie.
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