Why do sceptics and atheists post on this and other (genesis, verses)
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Calling the bible largely mythical, yet thinking a god-thing created the universe(s), and disbelieving science, results in me considering you as confused.
That must be because you understand mythology as a false story. Science is very useful for practical life, but that's about it. I keep repeating what myth means to avoid confusion: Myth: an ancient story or set of stories, especially explaining the early history of a group of people or about natural events and facts. Here is a Finnish professor of folklore studies, I hope it helps YOUR confusion:
The events recounted in myths have true validity for a religious person. For this reason the use of the term myth in everyday language is from the scholarly point of view inexact (in ordinary language myth is often used expressly for something untrue, utopian, misguided, etc.).
Lauri Honko
People think of imaginations as having nothing to do with reality, that is until somebody makes it so. What would people 2000 years ago say if you told them man was going to create a machine to fly around the world? It would be as unbelievable as your understanding of myths.
That must be because you understand mythology as a false story. Science is very useful for practical life, but that's about it. I keep repeating what myth means to avoid confusion: Myth: an ancient story or set of stories, especially explaining the early history of a group of people or about natural events and facts. Here is a Finnish professor of folklore studies, I hope it helps YOUR confusion:
The events recounted in myths have true validity for a religious person. For this reason the use of the term myth in everyday language is from the scholarly point of view inexact (in ordinary language myth is often used expressly for something untrue, utopian, misguided, etc.).
Lauri Honko
People think of imaginations as having nothing to do with reality, that is until somebody makes it so. What would people 2000 years ago say if you told them man was going to create a machine to fly around the world? It would be as unbelievable as your understanding of myths.
I am very far from confused.
You are welcome to your particular version of reality, however much it may differ.
That must be because you understand mythology as a false story. Science is very useful for practical life, but that's about it. I keep repeating what myth means to avoid confusion: Myth: an ancient story or set of stories, especially explaining the early history of a group of people or about natural events and facts. Here is a Finnish professor of folklore studies, I hope it helps YOUR confusion:
The events recounted in myths have true validity for a religious person. For this reason the use of the term myth in everyday language is from the scholarly point of view inexact (in ordinary language myth is often used expressly for something untrue, utopian, misguided, etc.).
Lauri Honko
People think of imaginations as having nothing to do with reality, that is until somebody makes it so. What would people 2000 years ago say if you told them man was going to create a machine to fly around the world? It would be as unbelievable as your understanding of myths.
no, I bet somebody thought "if birds can do it we can too". then everybody else around them said "your crazy". the difference is they said "look, see the bird ... thats why I say its possible.' they still said they were crazy.
some theist, and i don't know if your one, say "he died, rose, and flew away for our sins' take it on blind faith.
Religious forums? Seems like a waste of time and electrons. Why post on a forum of which is devoted to a subject of which holds no relevance to one. I don’t knit or fly airplanes. I don’t visit knitting or airplane forums. So why all the none-spiritual people on this forum? Uncertain about one’s belief system? Perhaps.
If I’ve asked this question before, forgive me. I am simply perplexed.
I come here to chat with fellow atheists and the Pagans and a good handful of Christians that I'm very fond of.
If you stay within your own bubble, you never learn anything. It's good to have a rounded perspective on the world.
It's a good thing to see other sides of a story - you know?
It's also a good thing to open up other peoples horizons.
no, I bet somebody thought "if birds can do it we can too". then everybody else around them said "your crazy". the difference is they said "look, see the bird ... thats why I say its possible.' they still said they were crazy.
some theist, and i don't know if your one, say "he died, rose, and flew away for our sins' take it on blind faith.
can you see the difference?
Maybe somebody would say that. For most people that lived 2000 years ago if somebody told them stories about airplanes and smartphones, they will call them 'myths' in the same sense the word is used today. Myth for people thousands of years ago was reality. You have as much right to say they are untrue as, they have to say that airplanes and smartphones cannot exist.
And I do believe in the resurrection, but not as churches explain it, which is probably the only version you have heard.
I am not an atheist but I AM skeptical of religions. I am particularly skeptical of Jesus Christ as many here already know. I think skeptics have a lot to offer a religious discussion by raising inconvenient truths religions don't like to talk about, funny enough like Jesus Christ now that I mention it.
But it appears that after 10 years here in the Christian/Religion forums I have worn out my welcome so it's time for me to say goodbye and depart to find another religion forum to haunt under a different avatar. I've had a good time here, folks. I will say on balance the mods have been more than fair, especially to me--notwithstanding a few suspensions I didn't feel I deserved. But one gets indications they're not welcome and so I leave.
Skeptics, keep fighting the good fight against lies and obfuscations religion try to spread. Good luck.
And no, I disagree that atheism is necessarily based on evidence and reason. It could just as easily be based on emotional reactions to events in one's life, the problem of evil argument, or other failures to think logically.
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Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes
Yes, those would be irrational arguments for atheism. Fortunately I see no one making them.
Let's suppose for the sake of time that no one here has based their lack of belief in god on emotional reactions to events in their life or the problem of evil argument. My point was simply that atheism isn't necessarily a product of reasoning or thinking about evidence, contrary to Transponder's saying "Religion is based on Faith; atheism on validated evidence and reason."
And I also asked them to define "faith", which is an important term here as well.
Let's suppose for the sake of time that no one here has based their lack of belief in god on emotional reactions to events in their life or the problem of evil argument. My point was simply that atheism isn't necessarily a product of reasoning or thinking about evidence, contrary to Transponder's saying "Religion is based on Faith; atheism on validated evidence and reason."
And I also asked them to define "faith", which is an important term here as well.
You're punching above your weight. That doesn't usually end well.
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