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Old 12-20-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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It means they can ignore all the BS you posit about God as a Title that can be applied to anything, which is just a stupid argument that just undermines the very significance you are trying to point to from our Reality as God. It is BECAUSE Reality establishes EVERYTHING that exists and is responsible for how EVERYTHING operates that it evidences about as thoroughgoing a God as there could ever be.
But, what about my fun Mystic?! The "Title God" thing is primo!
Of course it is the ATTRIBUTES that are the evidence for "Reality as God".
But if I argue only that...I would never get them responding about how I must now suppose dog poop, human poop, toilets, dildos, snot, rubber ducks, etc, as God! Their responses are just too great...and now that I have had them for all these years, I'm kinda hooked.
Anyway, more importantly...Merry Christmas to you and yours Mystic. I know how much you love it, and hope you are enjoying it as always.
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Old 12-20-2018, 06:59 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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All the weight of evidence is on my side. Evidence for atheism? Sorry but talking trash about Christians or about the Bible because it makes you feel good is not evidence.
Neither is talking trash about others' beliefs or non believe to make yourself feel good any type or real evidence either.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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When you try to dismiss Christians as people believing in "one of the gods" it just makes you look foolish. Atheists have no clue how ineffective their arguments are. The more you do it the more it helps to support the validity of Theism.

So please continue in these "arguments".
So, perhaps you could share with us the people on this forum who have said, "Ah, because of the atheists arguments on this forum, I have seen the light. I now accept god". Go ahead...name the posters who have now taken that position.

I can tell you in all honestly, however, that your posts have made me more convinced than ever that my conversion to an atheistic viewpoint is stronger than ever. Your repeated inane posts have done more to solidify my position than any other one poster.

Thank you for your service.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Neither is talking trash about others' beliefs or non believe to make yourself feel good any type or real evidence either.
It is JeffSpeak. By talking trash he means telling uncomfortable truths.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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I can tell you in all honestly, however, that your posts have made me more convinced than ever that my conversion to an atheistic viewpoint is stronger than ever. Your repeated inane posts have done more to solidify my position than any other one poster.
DITTO. I won't single out Ozzy, but the collective input of theists across these threads has done more to refine and reinforce my views, than anything I hear (see) from the already non-believers. It's sort of an "anti-testimonial" effect.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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When you try to dismiss Christians as people believing in "one of the gods" it just makes you look foolish. Atheists have no clue how ineffective their arguments are. The more you do it the more it helps to support the validity of Theism.

So please continue in these "arguments".
You're saying Christians don't believe in a god. In other words, they are not theists. And you're saying it is an "ineffective argument" to claim otherwise.

Your posts often make little sense, but this one takes the cake.
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I can tell you in all honestly, however, that your posts have made me more convinced than ever that my conversion to an atheistic viewpoint is stronger than ever. Your repeated inane posts have done more to solidify my position than any other one poster.

Thank you for your service.
Thin about this and maybe retract this statement. Do you really admit that this type of ridiculous inanity influences you at all?
That's giving him credit where none is due
I doubt it, you're smarter than that
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Thin about this and maybe retract this statement. Do you really admit that this type of ridiculous inanity influences you at all?
That's giving him credit where none is due
I doubt it, you're smarter than that
He is simply representative of a type of thinking that I abhor.
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:36 PM
 
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DITTO. I won't single out Ozzy, but the collective input of theists across these threads has done more to refine and reinforce my views, than anything I hear (see) from the already non-believers. It's sort of an "anti-testimonial" effect.
I think it goes both ways because for some their beliefs are refined with all the handwringing and pleading. It's like holding up a big curtain and constantly reminded gawkers "there's nothing to see here, but please don't look".



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Old 12-20-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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When you try to dismiss Christians as people believing in "one of the gods" it just makes you look foolish. Atheists have no clue how ineffective their arguments are. The more you do it the more it helps to support the validity of Theism.

So please continue in these "arguments".
Yes, they'll surely stop because of these bad attempts at reverse psychology that monotheists have been flocking to recently!

1. "Conflating Santa Clause with God only helps theists, so theists should do it and atheists shouldn't."
~//www.city-data.com/forum/53924963-post229.html

And now 2. Comparing the various given descriptions of the characteristics and personalities of the proposed "Christian God" as a conglomerate to other given and imagined Gods put forward (as generalized conglomerates as well), such as the Muslim God and the Hindu God(s) is ineffective, foolish, without a clue and actually vaguely supports theism in some mysterious and unknown way.

I'd hate to break it to ya, but I'll give you a clue, plenty of Christians don't think their Most High God is the Highest God proposed and described in Islam or Hinduism, but that such are non-existent or evil demons or misunderstands of some other kind. So I'm sure comparing the given Highest God ideas as "different" proposed "ultimate god(s)", works just fine.

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