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Old 07-31-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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Neither would I but there needs to be room for everyone to experience the same level of joy. Do you remember the childhood rhyme about stepping on a crack and breaking your mother's back? Sometimes people place so many cracks in the sidewalk that it's inevitable that someone will step on a crack even when they are trying to actively tiptoe around the pitfalls. IMO, we need more tolerance for non-violent differences.
A common ploy, is to seek to be offended.
Even by completely innocuous things. Things the vast majority would think are actually good.
That way you can play victim...which then deems the other an abuser.
It's a ruse...to invent a reason for casting aspersions...and put others in a bad light.
Praying for others is a near Universal Religious/Spiritual way and custom. What did one expect to find on a forum titled Religion and Spirituality?
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I am talking about people who know what my basic belief system is and force their belief system on me through prayer.
I certainly wouldn't worry about it. 'I'll pray for you' is an expression that is uttered without any real intent.

I'd expect the actual prayers uttered in response to "I'll pray for you" utterances is miniscule at best.
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Neither would I but there needs to be room for everyone to experience the same level of joy. Do you remember the childhood rhyme about stepping on a crack and breaking your mother's back? Sometimes people place so many cracks in the sidewalk that it's inevitable that someone will step on a crack even when they are trying to actively tiptoe around the pitfalls. IMO, we need more tolerance for non-violent differences.
Amen!!

We are all getting so " touchy ".

Don't know exactly why. But is a great concern for me.

Tribalism is increasing. We are distancing ourselves from each other.
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Neither would I but there needs to be room for everyone to experience the same level of joy. Do you remember the childhood rhyme about stepping on a crack and breaking your mother's back? Sometimes people place so many cracks in the sidewalk that it's inevitable that someone will step on a crack even when they are trying to actively tiptoe around the pitfalls. IMO, we need more tolerance for non-violent differences.
The tolerance comes in you being able to personally attend the church, temple, synagogue (etc.) of your choice, you being able to communicate with your god (or whatever) of choice, etc., but leaving others to their own beliefs.
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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The tolerance comes in you being able to personally attend the church, temple, synagogue (etc.) of your choice, you being able to communicate with your god (or whatever) of choice, etc., but leaving others to their own beliefs.
Tolerance starts with self. You have assigned belief systems to me on more than one occasion. You will not find any posts where I've done the same to you. I am not responsible for others or your experiences. I humbly and honestly do not care what you believe or whether or not you attend any religious services.
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Tolerance starts with self. You have assigned belief systems to me on more than one occasion. You will not find any posts where I've done the same to you. I am not responsible for others or your experiences. I humbly and honestly do not care what you believe or whether or not you attend any religious services.
No one is forcing you to read my posts. This is a public discussion board. You are perfectly welcome to use the ignore function if you wish to do so.
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Old 07-31-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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No one is forcing you to read my posts. This is a public discussion board. You are perfectly welcome to use the ignore function if you wish to do so.
Good deal because I do have original thoughts!
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Old 07-31-2022, 09:57 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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With that being said, I get highly offended when someone that knows I am not religious says it or quotes scripture or something.
Why do you get offended by such? It sounds as though you have an issue with control i.e. it irritates you if someone believes differently. I don’t believe in a god; and when my mom passed away well over a decade ago, I had a few people say things such as ‘she is in our prayers’ or ‘I will pray for your family’, whatever. Prayer is meaningless, but I certainly never took offense to it i.e. they meant well in their own way.
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Old 07-31-2022, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why do you get offended by such? It sounds as though you have an issue with control i.e. it irritates you if someone believes differently. I don’t believe in a god; and when my mom passed away well over a decade ago, I had a few people say things such as ‘she is in our prayers’ or ‘I will pray for your family’, whatever. Prayer is meaningless, but I certainly never took offense to it i.e. they meant well in their own way.
Because the unspoken message is that you need to hear about my god.
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Old 07-31-2022, 11:31 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Why do you get offended by such? It sounds as though you have an issue with control i.e. it irritates you if someone believes differently. I don’t believe in a god; and when my mom passed away well over a decade ago, I had a few people say things such as ‘she is in our prayers’ or ‘I will pray for your family’, whatever. Prayer is meaningless, but I certainly never took offense to it i.e. they meant well in their own way.
I have gotten that too. Most believers just assume others are as well. That's not a problem to me.
That's a different than someone saying "they'll pray for you" over something THEY think you need to work on. If the person saying it knows that person doesn't believe in God then they are invalidating someone when they are saying it. They are trying to place themselves as the center of someone elses universe. It's a form of saying "I know what you need." It's anti social.
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