Why do sceptics and atheists post on this and other (America, quote)
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I thought we did that with the moral thread. Many of us clearly demonstrated where we got our morals from.
Right. Moral codes based upon intuition and preference, and societal consensus of what most thought was cool.
The Religious have the most epic and prolific writings in human history as a basis...and they defer to them.
No comparison...the basis the Religious use is something that has endured time, and holds great respect...reverence, even.
Others, basically have nothing but their opinion and desires.
As you know...I view it as 99% subjective. But I still must give props to the Religious for having something so historically meritorious and enduring as a basis.
Right. Moral codes based upon intuition and preference, and societal consensus of what most thought was cool.
The Religious have the most epic and prolific writings in human history as a basis...and they defer to them.
No comparison...the basis the Religious use is something that has endured time, and holds great respect...reverence, even.
Others, basically have nothing but their opinion and desires.
As you know...I view it as 99% subjective. But I still must give props to the Religious for having something so historically meritorious and enduring as a basis.
Dude, I literally showed you a moral code based on your own God and you STILL didn't understand. I'd tare you a new one but I know you like that.
Dude, I literally showed you a moral code based on your own God and you STILL didn't understand. I'd tare you a new one but I know you like that.
Objective moral code?
I musta missed that...we usually debated back and forth about near universal subjectivity.
Hit me with it again...I wanna see it.
Heck...even as good as the Golden Rule is...it has subjective preference as a limitation...and may not always result in moral conduct.
One drunken wino sharing his bottle of MD20/20 with another drunken wino is following the Golden Rule.
Another person who seems to believe that these are praise forums. I'm not a Civil War soldier, and despite being old I'm not old enough to have lived during the Civil War. But if that topic comes up in the history sub-forum, I'm likely to join the discussion since it is a topic that interests me.
Like you, I'm not clear why some religionists are so befuddled about this.
I've been a little baffled and befuddled lately myself by the a playground favorite saying "I know you are, but what am I?" mentality. Egads, you'd think I'd been gone for 15 years the way the weird has come out of the woodwork. LOL to the Civil War thing.
I decided to read that article about how atheists are the lowest of the low, and it reads more like another example of how religious thinking can be so dopey...
"There they are walking along the street, not hurting anything but not believing in God, and every time they pass a church they can feel people looking out the stained-glass window and thinking, “There goes another rapist.” "
Funny that a religious person posts this article as if it's an intelligent contribution to this discussion. Not only is it dopey, but it goes back to 2011 and offers no links to the studies referenced. So who knows about those studies, but apparently one is a survey of 105 undergraduate students. Based on this kind of nonsense, I suppose we're supposed to be convinced all religious people are this dopey? That's what the article seems to be suggesting.
Seems like a waste of time and electrons. Why post on a forum of which is devoted to a subject of which holds no relevance to one. I don’t knit or fly airplanes. I don’t visit knitting or airplane forums. So why all the none-spiritual people on this forum? Uncertain about one’s belief system? Perhaps.
Why do evangelists come knocking on my door Sunday mornings to proselytize?
The bigotry, bias, and prejudice is toward those that get their moral directives and information about life and afterlife from the most epic and prolific books in human history...by those that work off of sources that don't have anywhere near that status.
I would not call it bigotry, but there are very good reasons our laws are not based on the OT, and that even most religious people do NOT get their morality from their religious books. The morality you are defending lead to 9/11.
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Originally Posted by GldnRule
When the Atheists, or anyone else, can show that they have a more enduring, influential, or trusted basis for the beliefs/views they put forth....they may have a case to present.
1) Aristotle, et al.
2) Every good religious person.
I would not call it bigotry, but there are very good reasons our laws are not based on the OT, and that even most religious people do NOT get their morality from their religious books. The morality you are defending lead to 9/11.
1) Aristotle, et al.
2) Every good religious person.
9/11 was a counter-offensive military operation...in retaliation to being bombed and killed for years, BECAUSE of their Theologically based ways and culture that we didn't agree with.
Aristotle...yeah, his tutelage gave us, most notably, Alexander the Great.
Though I do think much of his philosophy is pretty cool...he placed arbitrary things like "courage" as a top moral value...and had not much more than a subjective "behave in the right manner" moral philosophy.
He proposed that we determine what is objectively "right" through habit and practice. By that...any behavior could be deemed "morally right" if that's what was the common "habit & practice" at the time.
Every Good Religious Person: Another completely subjective basis. What is "good" is subjective.
And, by applying Aristotle's philosophy...it's whatever was their "habit & practice".
You offer nothing objective...as usual.
Though it is objective fact that Aristotle determined that everything was sourced by some Being that is separate from it all. How did you like that concept?
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