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Is raising your kids instead the state indoctrination? If you are not allowed to teach your kids right and wrong are they really your kids or the states?
Let’s ask the Hitler young who are their real parents?
it is not a fight at all.
because there is no fight.
those with logic, common sense, reasoning, balance, and critical thinking skills are able to grasp that. with ease.
while those who have been indoctrinated to see "fight" only see "fight." they are unable to integrate and understand and acknowledge a variety of elements and aspects; and the relationship between them. in life. in humankind. and within the individual.
clearly those indoctrinated in that way struggle with the concept that there is no fight. they have painted themselves into a corner by clinging to that indoctrination which they have been (in the parlance of the opening post) spoonfed. the "fight" mentality of "faith vs scientific method" characterizes a narrow mind.
The problem with trying to communicate with you is that you have a rather loose, sorta New Ageish view of spirituality. There's wrong with having ideas like those, but those ideas are not in alignment with critical thinking skills. Instead, your idea of "logic, common sense, reasoning, balance, and critical thinking skills" is when other people also have a rather loose, sorta New Ageish view of spirituality.
Again, I am not criticizing the spiritual OPINIONS that you have. I am criticizing the way you essentially state them as fact.
it is not a fight at all.
because there is no fight.
those with logic, common sense, reasoning, balance, and critical thinking skills are able to grasp that. with ease.
while those who have been indoctrinated to see "fight" only see "fight." they are unable to integrate and understand and acknowledge a variety of elements and aspects; and the relationship between them. in life. in humankind. and within the individual.
clearly those indoctrinated in that way struggle with the concept that there is no fight. they have painted themselves into a corner by clinging to that indoctrination which they have been (in the parlance of the opening post) spoonfed. the "fight" mentality of "faith vs scientific method" characterizes a narrow mind.
Sometimes pseudo-conflicts are derived in order for some to Trojan horse in their underlying objectives.
Sometimes pseudo-conflicts are derived in order for some to Trojan horse in their underlying objectives.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
Yes. I agree. Good point, good insight.
Indeed.
Yes, I agree, too. There is a definite contingent of atheists with that very objective of injecting their Trojan Horse default into every thread as a counter to theist arguments. Projection of THEIR motives is why they accuse me of peddling my pet theory.
Yes, I agree, too. There is a definite contingent of atheists with that very objective of injecting their Trojan Horse default into every thread as a counter to theist arguments. Projection of THEIR motives is why they accuse me of peddling my pet theory.
yup ... you aint peddling. we all answer post in a public forum according to our beliefs. So if you are peddling ... we are all peddling.
Yes, I agree, too. There is a definite contingent of atheists with that very objective of injecting their Trojan Horse default into every thread as a counter to theist arguments. Projection of THEIR motives is why they accuse me of peddling my pet theory.
No, the default of using what do we know is just a small part of why we believe, it is not an objective. And atheism is a response to any religious claims, whereas you peddle your pet theory at every opportunity, regardless of what the OP is about.
yup ... you aint peddling. we all answer post in a public forum according to our beliefs. So if you are peddling ... we are all peddling.
How do we get those who are so blinded by their atheism that they can NOT see it, Arach??? If their atheism is an answer to every theist argument in every thread, why is my theism not???
How do we get those who are so blinded by their atheism that they can NOT see it, Arach??? If their atheism is an answer to every theist argument in every thread, why is my theism not???
yeah, non faith based (scientific method based rationalism) atheist just describe the universe and how it works to the best of our ability. Then we have a look see at what claims match what we see the best.
We don't have to feel comfortable about it.
atheist that only put down theist claims and don't apply the scientific method to their own claims are a specific type of atheist. A sub set of the whole sha-bang if you will. they peddle notions like we are only talking about big foot and lepracons. When in fact, the rest of us are saying, you could have seen a bear, a dear, almost anything, but it probably isn't a walking bear man.
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