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It's so strange that my parents who are both in their fifties found work within 1-2 months of moving out their in their respective fields making the same or a little more than they made in northern Virginia. They must have been very lucky
1-2 months is very lucky for professional jobs. It usually takes far longer than that to review resumes,let alone interview, background screen, present offers..... The job I have now-started in 8/11, I applied for in sept 2010, before I even moved. They called me for the interview on my out of state cell number and asked if I was still coming out to San Diego. ...lol by then I'd been here for 6 months and was really ready to work. It goes to show you one doesn't have to be here to get interest. What helped me was I'd been doing months of local volunteer work and had local references that the interview commitee knew
(strangely, per HR, I could not update by resume after I submitted it back in 2010, so when they called me, I was to them, like any out of state candidate) Anyway it was over 2months after I accepted the position that I even started! My husband on the other hand interviewed in April 2010, was later told the old "so sorry we went another direction", and then they called him in early July, groveled, made a nice offer, and he was at his desk by mid August.
although i do agree with all the above posts, again I will say this, & this time rather blatantly:
they don't know me...
and that's not to sound cocky or anything along those lines AT ALL, but I know how to use my resources and have personally contacted people who have been quite helpful and positive with me. And again, (yes I know some of you might hate me for this) I'd rather wait tables in SD than work an engineering job in Ohio
trust me, give me 3 months in SD (at most) and I'll be writing back telling you all I'm gainfully employed in my field.
You have tenacity which is great! And that will help you no matter which city you live/work in.
I'm quite confident no one "hates" you for being willing to wait tables in San Diego vs. working an engineering job in Ohio. In fact, I think what separates you from some others is by the mere fact that you mentioned that... you probably acknowledge how tough the job market here can be. It shows you did some due diligence.
You go girl!
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Originally Posted by Clevelandgal
1-2 months is very lucky for professional jobs. It usually takes far longer than that to review resumes,let alone interview, background screen, present offers..... The job I have now-started in 8/11, I applied for in sept 2010, before I even moved. They called me for the interview on my out of state cell number and asked if I was still coming out to San Diego. ...lol by then I'd been here for 6 months and was really ready to work. It goes to show you one doesn't have to be here to get interest. What helped me was I'd been doing months of local volunteer work and had local references that the interview commitee knew
(strangely, per HR, I could not update by resume after I submitted it back in 2010, so when they called me, I was to them, like any out of state candidate) Anyway it was over 2months after I accepted the position that I even started! My husband on the other hand interviewed in April 2010, was later told the old "so sorry we went another direction", and then they called him in early July, groveled, made a nice offer, and he was at his desk by mid August.
I agree with you Clevelandgal that 2 months is pretty good for SD based on what other people have told me. I do believe as I mentioned that it's easier for people with work experience, contacts, references, etc. vs. new graduates for the most part. Granted much depends on what field you are in.
But many people I have met that moved here had more of the experience like you had vs. GMUAlumni's parents. Many that I have met ended up having to work in a totally different field vs. what their major was in to get started. But nothing is impossible. I always believe the best thing is doing a lot of due diligence and understanding how things are locally.
The time for you to do it is now. Let's review. You don't have that $70K engineering job, so you don't have to find an equivalent one to replace it. People who make $70K start to get things that people can afford on that salary, and they get used to a certain lifestyle. It is hard to go back to a $35K lifestyle after doing that.
But if you're on a ramen noodles budget right now, like you are, then you'll be just fine on that $35K lifestyle. It's more money than you're used to making.
1-2 months is very lucky for professional jobs. It usually takes far longer than that to review resumes,let alone interview, background screen, present offers..... The job I have now-started in 8/11, I applied for in sept 2010, before I even moved. They called me for the interview on my out of state cell number and asked if I was still coming out to San Diego. ...lol by then I'd been here for 6 months and was really ready to work. It goes to show you one doesn't have to be here to get interest. What helped me was I'd been doing months of local volunteer work and had local references that the interview commitee knew
(strangely, per HR, I could not update by resume after I submitted it back in 2010, so when they called me, I was to them, like any out of state candidate) Anyway it was over 2months after I accepted the position that I even started! My husband on the other hand interviewed in April 2010, was later told the old "so sorry we went another direction", and then they called him in early July, groveled, made a nice offer, and he was at his desk by mid August.
Whats even crazier is my mom has changed jobs like 3 times already (not laid off, her own choice) and my dad got laid off after a year and it took him about 3 months to find another job about 30 miles closer to home lol
Whats even crazier is my mom has changed jobs like 3 times already (not laid off, her own choice) and my dad got laid off after a year and it took him about 3 months to find another job about 30 miles closer to home lol
Wow. GMUAlum, you mean all this turnover AFTER they moved to San Diego?
Doesn't all that rapid turnover worry them a bit? I mean it's great that they found jobs so quickly but doesn't the lack of stability in employers bother them at all? Whenever I interview employees I see people that jump from job to job and that always makes me a bit nervous.
Just out of curiosity, why did your mom change so often? Just didn't like the environment? They both must be in demanding professions. That's great.
The time for you to do it is now. Let's review. You don't have that $70K engineering job, so you don't have to find an equivalent one to replace it. People who make $70K start to get things that people can afford on that salary, and they get used to a certain lifestyle. It is hard to go back to a $35K lifestyle after doing that.
But if you're on a ramen noodles budget right now, like you are, then you'll be just fine on that $35K lifestyle. It's more money than you're used to making.
Exactly-- I couldn't have said it better myself....this is spot on to what I've been saying since the job market crashed. all my friends would tell me they couldn't find a job due to the unemployment rate being so high- to which i politely guaranteed I could find every last one of them a job...it just may be a different job than what they were envisioning. The job market isn't bad for new grads- it's bad for the ones who require a higher salary.
You have tenacity which is great! And that will help you no matter which city you live/work in.
I'm quite confident no one "hates" you for being willing to wait tables in San Diego vs. working an engineering job in Ohio. In fact, I think what separates you from some others is by the mere fact that you mentioned that... you probably acknowledge how tough the job market here can be. It shows you did some due diligence.
You go girl!
I agree with you Clevelandgal that 2 months is pretty good for SD based on what other people have told me. I do believe as I mentioned that it's easier for people with work experience, contacts, references, etc. vs. new graduates for the most part. Granted much depends on what field you are in.
But many people I have met that moved here had more of the experience like you had vs. GMUAlumni's parents. Many that I have met ended up having to work in a totally different field vs. what their major was in to get started. But nothing is impossible. I always believe the best thing is doing a lot of due diligence and understanding how things are locally.
thank you!! and i understand that all as well- which is why when I move my first priority might really be to just get ANY job, that way I can start saving right away and being "out there" to meet new contacts. I'll just be sure to tell all my tables that I have an engineering degree and I'm looking for work
Wow. GMUAlum, you mean all this turnover AFTER they moved to San Diego?
Doesn't all that rapid turnover worry them a bit? I mean it's great that they found jobs so quickly but doesn't the lack of stability in employers bother them at all? Whenever I interview employees I see people that jump from job to job and that always makes me a bit nervous.
Just out of curiosity, why did your mom change so often? Just didn't like the environment? They both must be in demanding professions. That's great.
Hold up a minute. My mom changes jobs because she can. If she doesn't like her job, she will leave. I know it sounds crazy but she won't put up with eating **** just because she is employed. I think she is on her second or third job because she didn't like what she was doing in her first two positions and felt abused by the amount of work she was being asked to do for what her compensation was. She was never laid off, she quit her job after she had something lined else lined up. That's a lack of stability by choice and it hasn't effected her ability to find work so I don't think she is worried about that. Jumping from job to job is part of the game these days. Maybe not multiple jobs within a year, but every couple years changing jobs seems to be the best way to get that next promotion or a bigger pay raise. Maybe that's an east coast thing.
My dad is a different story altogether. The partners at his old firm had some sort of internal beef going between them. The partner that hired my Dad didn't consult the other partner before hiring my dad. After tax season was finished the partner that didn't hire my dad called him into his office and laid him off mostly because he resented the other partner's decision to hire my Dad without consulting him. It was a very strange situation. He found another job a few months later at a location much much closer to where he lives.
My mom has never been without a job since she moved there (except for the first month) and my Dad was bummed out that he got laid off but made the best of it and found a better company to work for that is only about 10 miles from his house as opposed to 40 miles. He is much happier now so it worked out for the best
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Hold up a minute. My mom changes jobs because she can. If she doesn't like her job, she will leave. I know it sounds crazy but she won't put up with eating **** just because she is employed. I think she is on her second or third job because she didn't like what she was doing in her first two positions and felt abused by the amount of work she was being asked to do for what her compensation was. She was never laid off, she quit her job after she had something lined else lined up. That's a lack of stability by choice and it hasn't effected her ability to find work so I don't think she is worried about that. Jumping from job to job is part of the game these days. Maybe not multiple jobs within a year, but every couple years changing jobs seems to be the best way to get that next promotion or a bigger pay raise. Maybe that's an east coast thing.
My dad is a different story altogether. The partners at his old firm had some sort of internal beef going between them. The partner that hired my Dad didn't consult the other partner when my dad was hired. After tax season was finished the partner that didn't hire my dad called him into his office and laid him off mostly because he resented the other partner's decision to hire my Dad without consulting him. It was a very strange situation. He found another job a few months later at a location much much closer to where he lives.
My mom has never been without a job since she moved there (except for the first month) and my Dad was bummed out that he got laid off but made the best of it and found a better company to work for that is only about 10 miles from his house as opposed to 40 miles. He is much happier now so it worked out for the best
Great. Thanks for taking the time to post about it. I really think these kinds of threads can be super educational for people thinking about moving here.
Definitely I agree, one should NOT feel abused at their job place and I agree one should leave if that is the case. Possibly that is why she found the job so quickly. Maybe people in that position kept constantly quitting due to poor working environment. I see that same kind of thing with other companies and they have constant openings due to high turnover in their staff. That's one thing I noticed with some of my companies. All my employees would be around for a long time with almost no turnover. I treated them really well while my competitors would have a revolving door.
I guess your parents examples kind of fall in line with what I have been mentioning...that the job market here isn't so great. And probably great jobs with a stable working environment with genuinely nice people are fewer and far between here. But definitely great your dad found another job so quickly. I do think that accounting jobs are one of the better fields to be in most major cities these days. So that's great your dad is in that field.
Thanks again for sharing.
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Originally Posted by divagotstyle07
Exactly-- I couldn't have said it better myself....this is spot on to what I've been saying since the job market crashed. all my friends would tell me they couldn't find a job due to the unemployment rate being so high- to which i politely guaranteed I could find every last one of them a job...it just may be a different job than what they were envisioning. The job market isn't bad for new grads- it's bad for the ones who require a higher salary.
Well, I really think the job market for new grads totally depends on what their major is. There are still a LOT of new grads with almost WORTHLESS majors out there. I think one thing this Great Recession taught a lot of new grads (and possibly parents paying for their kid's education) is to take a closer look at fields of studies and majors. Too many worthless degrees out there that you can't do anything with without a graduate degree. And maybe not even then. There are a lot of people with Master's degrees working retail or in restaurants in San Diego.
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Originally Posted by divagotstyle07
thank you!! and i understand that all as well- which is why when I move my first priority might really be to just get ANY job, that way I can start saving right away and being "out there" to meet new contacts. I'll just be sure to tell all my tables that I have an engineering degree and I'm looking for work
Yes, if you're willing to get ANY job that is important to keep cash flow coming in and avoiding racking up debt. But it just will come down to a question of the final end game. How long you are willing to possibly make lower wages before finding a job you like. I think that's the major decision most people need to make in your shoes.
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My mom works in healthcare (which is probably why she is able to find new work so quickly) and my dad is a Tax CPA. Both good fields to be in for job opportunities like you mentioned.
The biggest thing I forgot to mention (or sort of did), is that they are extremely happy in San Diego and with their choice to leave Northern Virgina and come out there. I'm glad it has worked out for them.
My Dad works 200 yards away from the beach in Carlsbad and will take his lunch breaks on the beach. Its hard to put a price tag on something like that and is something he would have never experienced if he stayed in NoVA
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