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Old 03-17-2017, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Some Texans don't care, but many do. Most of my coworkers were ashamed that Rick Perry was from the state. They told me "be glad you didn't live here when he was governor."
Interesting. I've truly never heard one Texan say anything like that. But of course, we run in very different circles. And I don't think you lived in Texas very long, did you?
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I believe you are correct in analyzing her thinking, but what I'm trying to get across is the fact the State isn't imposing it's dominance over communities based on personal religion. The state is simply complying with the majority of it's citizens wishes. This is not called imposing dominance based on one or two people's personal religious beliefs, this is called democracy. Dan Patrick came to a school board meeting in Fort Worth and THL you are well within viewing range of the televised coverage the local DFW stations gave it. People came out in droves and overwhelmingly voiced their opposition to the school board. Later, there would be groups of people from Fort Worth traveling to Austin to voice their disapproval at the state capitol. THL when you used the term imposing dominance, you could very well be describing the Fort Worth school superintendent. Was he not imposing his dominance upon the students and their parents of the FWISD? And this was based on . . . what? His personal beliefs? His religion? His political correctness? His what? It doesn't matter, just pick something out of a hat, it seems to work well for you. Might as well pick religion, that seems to be an all time favorite. Whatever he based his reasoning on, he definitely used dominance to impose it. All to the delight of a select few and the dismay of the majority.

Am I to understand this is what we want in our school superintendents, our state leaders? To bow down to a minute select few and impose their will over the entire majority? And all the while claim you live in a democracy? Sh*t fire and save matches and just stick a fork in me cause I'm done.

I would like to say that I am totally mystified how something as stupid and completely inane as this issue is ever got started in the first place but then I have to remember Obama originated it, so there's my answer.
I know a great many people (living in Texas for 67 years in various parts of the state does that). I know precious few who are in favor of the nonsense laws that the Governor and Lieutenant Governor are trying to shove down our throats (and use to distract us from everything else they are doing - what other laws that are being passed right now are you even aware of, never mind familiar with? They know that genitals will work to distract the rabble every single time.). You assume that it's the majority that want what you want; I assume the majority wants what I want (Texas being famous in times past for being live and let live rather than "let's force our religious beliefs - let's be honest, that's what it is - on others"). Only way to tell is to find out how many care enough at all to vote, and we're certainly not going to be allowed to do that!
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Interesting. I've truly never heard one Texan say anything like that. But of course, we run in very different circles. And I don't think you lived in Texas very long, did you?
You haven't heard me say that Rick Perry is an embarrassment to the State of Texas? I've certainly said it enough! And I know many many people (both parties, FWIW, and none, and likewise lifelong Texans) who have said the same thing.

Not embarrassed to be from Texas, but embarrassed that he is. And enraged that he took credit for things about Texas that were here before he ever was and will exist long after. He is not and never has been about Texas, he's always been about, first, foremost, and only, Rick Perry.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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My daughter asked me a question that really got me thinking last night. She said:

"Daddy, how much money would it take for you to allow grown men dressed in girl clothes to go into the bathroom with me?"

I'm conflicted. She's my baby girl, but the Final Four and the NBA All-Star Game bring in a lot of revenue.

Decisions, decisions....
As if adult natural-born women don't molest little girls or "straight" men don't molest little boys.....
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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This bill will die in the House.....
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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You haven't heard me say that Rick Perry is an embarrassment to the State of Texas? I've certainly said it enough! And I know many many people (both parties, FWIW, and none, and likewise lifelong Texans) who have said the same thing.

Not embarrassed to be from Texas, but embarrassed that he is. And enraged that he took credit for things about Texas that were here before he ever was and will exist long after. He is not and never has been about Texas, he's always been about, first, foremost, and only, Rick Perry.
Sorry, no offense but I don't know you personally so I stand by what I said earlier.

And I'm a bit taken aback by your vitriol about Rick Perry and Abbott, to be honest. My gosh, I didn't like Ann Richards and I know people who knew her personally who couldn't STAND her personally or professionally, but I never was as full of venom toward her (or any other politician I can think of - I hold most of them in varying degrees of low esteem) as you apparently are toward Republican politicians.

Oh well. Get outraged, get embarrassed, whatever - I'm just not surprised when politicians of every stripe and color are less than morally or philosophically astute. I think most of them are in it for themselves and their egos. I'm including both Obama and Trump in that statement. And most of their minions.

And I'll repeat my earlier sentiment - I can't believe how ridiculously massive and suddenly of such burning issue this whole transgender bathroom thing has become - for less than 1 percent of the population of the US. Personally I'm sick and tired of thinking about other peoples' genitals, sexual practices and sexual identities. Isn't there anything more pressing to, I don't know, try to legislate? Sheeze!
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:15 PM
 
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I know a great many people (living in Texas for 67 years in various parts of the state does that). I know precious few who are in favor of the nonsense laws that the Governor and Lieutenant Governor are trying to shove down our throats (and use to distract us from everything else they are doing - what other laws that are being passed right now are you even aware of, never mind familiar with? They know that genitals will work to distract the rabble every single time.). You assume that it's the majority that want what you want; I assume the majority wants what I want (Texas being famous in times past for being live and let live rather than "let's force our religious beliefs - let's be honest, that's what it is - on others"). Only way to tell is to find out how many care enough at all to vote, and we're certainly not going to be allowed to do that!
Here we go again. 5th generation Texan, a preacher's daughter (maybe this is what messed you up on religion), lived all around Texas, older than dirt so knows a great number of people. Well guess what THL, there's plenty of us who are also descended from long lines of Texans, lived in various places all over the State and old enough to know a few people. This does not make us experts on everything regarding the State of Texas.

You keep repeating how your two most hated people at the present time (bless your heart, no more Rick Perry as governor around to spew your hatred out on) are trying to shove nonsense down our throats. You conveniently ignore how Obama started all of this by pushing the nonsense down our throats and then of course you ignore how the big frog in the little pond school superintendent thought the cool thing to do was align himself with the cool, hip president and so decided to do some strong arm tactics himself.

Also, I didn't assume anything when I said the majority of the Fort Worth citizens were opposed to the FWISD superintendent's strong arm tactics on this issue. I am surprise an expert such as yourself, who seems to pride herself on staying abreast of such Texas newsworthy events, apparently let this one slip right by. Or is it because the results weren't the outcome you wanted, so stick your head in the sand? But let's just give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are truly unaware of what transpired in Fort Worth. I realize it's easier for you to assume, but seriously, you should look up the archives and see what actually went on in that meeting.

As to your remark "They know that genitals will work to distract the rabble every single time", I believe something to that effect was originally said about Obama when people were wondering what he was really up to when throwing out all the smoke screens and that includes the one such as this bathroom fiasco. I don't believe the term rabble was used, but that's understandable.

As to a statewide vote on this stupid bathroom BS, I can assure you, you do not want that. Talk about blowing your theories (and those of all of your great many people you know) plumb out of the water, well wow. But I know you think differently, so you should petition for a vote.

And finally, what on earth is up with you and your religion remarks? Every time something isn't on par to your thinking, you always manage to drag religion into it and always in a derogatory manner. Dang, that being a preacher's daughter must have really done a number on you. If this issue was about abortion, then yes, I'll agree, some people will use religion in their arguments against it while there will be others who have various reasons to be anti-abortion and religion doesn't enter into it, but for a person such as yourself with a warped view on religion, it's going to only be about religion and you will claim everyone who is anti-abortion is only so because of religion. Again, you will be wrong, but there will be no telling you that. As far as this bathroom stupid crap, it is not about religion at all, it is all about Obama shoving yet another one of his warped agendas down the state's throats and yes, as simple as that.

You sound like one of those people who still believe the Civil War was over slavery. Slavery was an issue of course, but the war was fought over states rights and yes, as simple as that.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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Here we go again. 5th generation Texan, a preacher's daughter (maybe this is what messed you up on religion), lived all around Texas, older than dirt so knows a great number of people. Well guess what THL, there's plenty of us who are also descended from long lines of Texans, lived in various places all over the State and old enough to know a few people. This does not make us experts on everything regarding the State of Texas.

You keep repeating how your two most hated people at the present time (bless your heart, no more Rick Perry as governor around to spew your hatred out on) are trying to shove nonsense down our throats. You conveniently ignore how Obama started all of this by pushing the nonsense down our throats and then of course you ignore how the big frog in the little pond school superintendent thought the cool thing to do was align himself with the cool, hip president and so decided to do some strong arm tactics himself.

Also, I didn't assume anything when I said the majority of the Fort Worth citizens were opposed to the FWISD superintendent's strong arm tactics on this issue. I am surprise an expert such as yourself, who seems to pride herself on staying abreast of such Texas newsworthy events, apparently let this one slip right by. Or is it because the results weren't the outcome you wanted, so stick your head in the sand? But let's just give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are truly unaware of what transpired in Fort Worth. I realize it's easier for you to assume, but seriously, you should look up the archives and see what actually went on in that meeting.

As to your remark "They know that genitals will work to distract the rabble every single time", I believe something to that effect was originally said about Obama when people were wondering what he was really up to when throwing out all the smoke screens and that includes the one such as this bathroom fiasco. I don't believe the term rabble was used, but that's understandable.

As to a statewide vote on this stupid bathroom BS, I can assure you, you do not want that. Talk about blowing your theories (and those of all of your great many people you know) plumb out of the water, well wow. But I know you think differently, so you should petition for a vote.

And finally, what on earth is up with you and your religion remarks? Every time something isn't on par to your thinking, you always manage to drag religion into it and always in a derogatory manner. Dang, that being a preacher's daughter must have really done a number on you. If this issue was about abortion, then yes, I'll agree, some people will use religion in their arguments against it while there will be others who have various reasons to be anti-abortion and religion doesn't enter into it, but for a person such as yourself with a warped view on religion, it's going to only be about religion and you will claim everyone who is anti-abortion is only so because of religion. Again, you will be wrong, but there will be no telling you that. As far as this bathroom stupid crap, it is not about religion at all, it is all about Obama shoving yet another one of his warped agendas down the state's throats and yes, as simple as that.

You sound like one of those people who still believe the Civil War was over slavery. Slavery was an issue of course, but the war was fought over states rights and yes, as simple as that.
I just realized that there are TWO threads going on this inane topic!!!!! I am sick unto death of thinking of other adults' genitals and sexual identities - I'm outta here. I hate I wasted as much time on it as I already had.

By the way, for what it's worth, my ancestors fought in the battle of Goliad.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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I just realized that there are TWO threads going on this inane topic!!!!! I am sick unto death of thinking of other adults' genitals and sexual identities - I'm outta here. I hate I wasted as much time on it as I already had.
Isn't that the God's truth? Complete waste of time and over what? Just plain stupidity, that's what. I'm outta here my own damn self.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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No, what I'm saying is that there are very few people in this world who are actually transgender and most of them were probably using whatever bathroom they identified with prior to all this hoopla without anyone even suspecting anything.

I think this whole thing is much ado about nothing, and I don't like the federal government trying to strong arm states into complying with this much ado about nothing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.3ea0024a68b2

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/h...opulation.html

Either way you slice it - well under 1 percent of the population. SHEEZE.
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