Any Blue State Transplants Considering Bailing on Texas? (Houston, Austin: buyers, taxi)

[la_fuerza]

Originally Posted by ForgotTheMilk

Things are always changing. The latest decision has already spurred a whole bunch of discourse and laws at the state level which are nowhere near settled yet. Things may look significantly different a year from now.

Thanks for mentioning this. Perhaps the conservative stranglehold on Texas isn't as bad as I thought. I appreciate As Above So Below and others reaching out and telling what TX is really like. And I'm thankful for the liberals and progressives in the state fighting the good fight against these archaic wackos.

[Mr. Clutch]

Originally Posted by EDS_

1. IMO you are underselling the proportionalities. The data are fuzzy for sure, but according to KEF (in no way a right leaning source) self-described black/AA women account for somewhere around 37-38-39% of all abortions in The US.

2. The left uses people and actions of the past as political leverage literally constantly. Pointing out that Margaret Singer was a class-A scum bag but also a hero to many on the left until about a year ago is fair game.

Neither of these points is relevant in my view. Again, you can't look at the differences in rates of abortions without looking at difference in underlying fertility and birth rates in that same context. White nationalists don't like abortion because it kills white babies in the context of white women having sub-replacement fertility rates. That's not true of any other race (yet) but fertility rates of other women are falling fast as well. Historically, white women have gotten more abortions than every other group and the white nationalist push against it certainly didn't start yesterday...

If some on the left just loooooove Margaret Sanger despite her being a racist, thats awful but literally has nothing to do with people of all races having the right to abort. I don't care at all how people feel in the context of public policy - what I care about are what are the results of these policies on real people that are actually alive today? Religious and racial views on abortion (or any other topic for that matter) have no place in policy imo.

[WestDino]

Margaret Sanger was a person of privilege and as such was obviously racist. Still, nothing that you or I say negatively about her can ever take away from the great advancements she contributed to civilization.

[imaterry78259]

Houston and San Antonio are the best cities to live in Texas

[Pilsn3r]

Originally Posted by WestDino

Margaret Sanger was a person of privilege and as such was obviously racist. Still, nothing that you or I say negatively about her can ever take away from the great advancements she contributed to civilization.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2X11YN

Maybe she was in some context (eugenics) but not about extermination. Either way, she was definitely no where near the racism of the Republicans and their dear leader Trump.

[Pilsn3r]

Originally Posted by WestDino

Margaret Sanger was a person of privilege and as such was obviously racist. Still, nothing that you or I say negatively about her can ever take away from the great advancements she contributed to civilization.

FYI, not saying you are a Trumplican.

[done working]

Originally Posted by Pilsn3r

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2X11YN

Maybe she was in some context (eugenics) but not about extermination. Either way, she was definitely no where near the racism of the Republicans and their dear leader Trump.

LOL you just cant let it go!

[Ghost Town]

Originally Posted by la_fuerza

Thanks for mentioning this. Perhaps the conservative stranglehold on Texas isn't as bad as I thought. I appreciate As Above So Below and others reaching out and telling what TX is really like. And I'm thankful for the liberals and progressives in the state fighting the good fight against these archaic wackos.

Not true.
It is bad and getting worse.
Better stay in a blue state.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

That is why I specified city proper. Yes, conservatives move to the suburbs of Dallas and Houston but very rarely into the city.

My beef with all of this is that Texas isnt run like the state it is, its run as a far right state. Texas is in reality a right of center state. I dont know too many liberals who are intolerant to the fiscal policies of Texas, however when we start talking abortion with no exceptions for rape, incest, or danger to the mothers life, doing away with gay marriage, or secession, people are going to have a problem. Why not simply keep taxes low, keep pro-business stances, and keep it gun friendly and just do away with crazy socially conservative stuff?

Also we cant look at each other as enemies. I dont think of conservatives or the far left as my enemies. Were all Americans and we have to figure this out together even though we sometimes dont like each other.

I just want to point out a few things.

First of all, there is an abortion exception in Texas law to safeguard the life of the mother. Should there be one there for rape or incest? Personally, and especially since the numbers for either are so low, I'd throw that dog a bone and say yes. But hey, that's just me.

Secondly, every single state has presented an article of secession to the President. Not just Texas. The vast majority of Texans do not want to secede anyway (at least 75 percent).

Thirdly, please provide evidence that Texas is trying to do away with gay marriage. The right to have or perform a same sex marriage is federal law.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

I just want to point out a few things.

First of all, there is an abortion exception in Texas law to safeguard the life of the mother. Should there be one there for rape or incest? Personally, and especially since the numbers for either are so low, I'd throw that dog a bone and say yes. But hey, that's just me.

Secondly, every single state has presented an article of secession to the President. Not just Texas. The vast majority of Texans do not want to secede anyway (at least 75 percent).

Thirdly, please provide evidence that Texas is trying to do away with gay marriage. The right to have or perform a same sex marriage is federal law.

To point 1, that needs to be the absolute minimum. No one should be forced to carry their rape baby. No one.

To point 2, yes I know most Texans want nothing to do with secession. Texas just screams the loudest and the GOP in this state wants to vote on it so this is different.

To point 3, see below:

https://www.chron.com/politics/artic...-17271966.php\

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/roe-...be-tossed.html

The leaders at state level want to criminalize sodomy if they can. Ken Paxton says just as much. If gay sex is illegal you know gay marriage will be too.