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Toronto is a heaven for women, a borderline hell for hetero men. And the world thankfully is starting to find out about it.
Well we'll see.. Somehow I don't think some posts in City data or some youtube video's Roosh v (who commands less than 100 men per conference btw in NYC or maybe 44 in Toronto and Montreal) or some guy posting youtube video's of feminists in Queens Park is going to make a dent whatsoever in Toronto's growth. You'll be very disappointed next census if you raise your hopes..
2015 was a record year for visitation in Toronto with over 40 million visitors - the highest in the history of the city and its airport was the first to ever reach 40 million pax per year in the country. In every measurable way, this simply is not resonating with the wider world even though you may think it is and you have some people cheering for the cause - it is little more than a small internet social community going waaah.. By all means, even small niche groups need to whine about their woes. If its therapeutic to do that in C/D by all means keep the posts coming..
Naturally as the city grows in size and prominence - I will always be the first one to report that - you can count on it as i'm sure you're already aware.
The much more impressive stat is how many young visible minorities are marrying outside their tribes. In what the census bureau calls the Metropolitan Area of Toronto (which includes Pickering and Ajax to the east, Milton and Oakville to the west, and Georgina on the shores of Lake Simcoe to the north), 45 per cent of second-generation immigrants who are married or living common law are doing so with someone of a different race or ethnicity. By the third generation, it spikes to a stunning 68 per cent
Well we'll see.. Somehow I don't think some posts in City data or some youtube video's Roosh v (who commands less than 100 men per conference btw in NYC or maybe 44 in Toronto and Montreal) or some guy posting youtube video's of feminists in Queens Park is going to make a dent whatsoever in Toronto's growth. You'll be very disappointed next census if you raise your hopes..
2015 was a record year for visitation in Toronto with over 40 million visitors - the highest in the history of the city and its airport was the first to ever reach 40 million pax per year in the country. In every measurable way, this simply is not resonating with the wider world even though you may think it is and you have some people cheering for the cause - it is little more than a small internet social community going waaah.. By all means, even small niche groups need to whine about their woes. If its therapeutic to do that in C/D by all means keep the posts coming..
Naturally as the city grows in size and prominence - I will always be the first one to report that - you can count on it as i'm sure you're already aware.
Why does destination canada say 17.1 million visitors for all of canada but ctv says 40 million for toronto alone. Which one is lying?
Nvm 26 million of the 40 was day trips and not actual vacation. Pretty misleading considering they probably didn't spend too much at all other than gas and food. Plus out of that 14 million only 1.2 Were tourists outside of North America.
Toronto has a long way to go before you can consider it a destination hot spot.
That 40 million is not a good representation because if it were real it should generate 45 billion like vegas does. I can't find hiw much toronto revenue for tourism though. Not as easy to find as vegas.
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This is entirely true, in fact in Toronto is obvious that women here would love to include you into that creep category once you try to hit on them and even if you are only just saying hello to them.
Why does destination canada say 17.1 million visitors for all of canada but ctv says 40 million for toronto alone. Which one is lying?
Nvm 26 million of the 40 was day trips and not actual vacation. Pretty misleading considering they probably didn't spend too much at all other than gas and food. Plus out of that 14 million only 1.2 Were tourists outside of North America.
Toronto has a long way to go before you can consider it a destination hot spot.
That 40 million is not a good representation because if it were real it should generate 45 billion like vegas does. I can't find hiw much toronto revenue for tourism though. Not as easy to find as vegas.
The same measures are used for pretty much every other city was used for Toronto. Other cities measure day trips and O/N trips in one combined measure. If you separate O/N and day trips for any than of course day trips are going to outstrip overnight visitors. Still O/N visitors to the city (those who stay one night or more) are on the rise and 2015 was a record year. Chinese visitors have outstripped UK visitors as the highest number overseas except for the U.S. Typically international long haul visitors support a city more than a day trip person. Toronto is in a great place to attract more of these high spending tourists because of its incredible international connectivity at its airport, which now save for JFK the most internationally connected N.A airport.
destination Canada stats are for foreign visitors coming to Canada. Toronto tourism is for all visitors to Toronto foreign and domestic. That would address your discrepancy, nobody is lying you're just not understanding the statistics. As with cities like Chicago, Atlanta, San Franciso, Las Vegas - most of their visitors are also from domestic sources. Read up on each of those cities and you'll find the same information i'm telling you!
Here is a link providing more stats... Take into account just 4 years ago visitors spend in Toronto was only 5 billion dollars. In 4 years its gone up to 7.2 billion and rising yoy. These are good stats and very healthy growth. Has Toronto reached its potential - of course not but no city goes from A to Z in a short period of time..
Las Vegas is a tourism destination primarly. Toronto is a multifaceted global city. Comparing these two cities for tourism spend is like comparing the Finance industry of Las Vegas to Toronto - why would you do that - its like comparing a Sloth to an Elephant. For points of comparison - compare Toronto to other multifaceted global cities like Chicago or San Francisco - not Orlando or Las Vegas - all their chips are essentially in one bag. Tourism/visitation is one of many bags in international cities like Toronto, Chicago and S.F.
Me too! It keeps it interesting ! Though we look like we could be from the same culture, but no one ever guess right for either of us anyways.
Hmmm I bet I could narrow it down I've travelled extensively around the world so i'm pretty good at these things but good on ya!
At first we fought a lot to be honest - not just verbal but literally physical. The cultural differences were pretty pronounced I just didn't 'get' him and he didn't get me. Now we totally get one another and picked up things from the other too! The spice isn't there as much as it used to - we've been together 7 years so the waters are calmer but the ocean is far deeper
I've lived in northern Ontario, Toronto, Nashville, and Houston (plus a few other places not worth mentioning), and I think a city can actually CHANGE the character of those living in it after a while. For example, I brought an American girl from the south up to Toronto with me once, and after a year or two she was walking "eyes down to the ground" and stepping over homeless people lying on grates with the best of them. I've also known Canadian girls who moved to the South and were soon talking slower, calling complete strangers "hon" and "sugar," and otherwise assuming the characteristics of their adopted cities. Other people make a conscious effort to resist assimilating and prefer to retain their "native" characteristics.
I do find it easier to meet new people in the South. It's not that they're necessarily always friendlier (there's a friendly veneer but it can be fake), but they generally ARE more easily-approachable and less reserved, which of course makes it easier to strike-up a conversation. And girls in Texas -- especially outside the larger cities -- can be downright flirtatious and spontaneous, even if they don't know you. I have stories.
But going back to the question of the OP of this thread, I think men in Toronto probably just reflect women in Toronto, and have come to accept and adjust to what women there find appropriate and "normal" -- which is to say, being cautious and reserved. Personally, I think it has something to do with the climate; when everyone down here starts shedding more and more clothes as the summer heat intensifies, it does something to moral inhibitions too.
Hmmm I bet I could narrow it down I've travelled extensively around the world so i'm pretty good at these things but good on ya!
At first we fought a lot to be honest - not just verbal but literally physical. The cultural differences were pretty pronounced I just didn't 'get' him and he didn't get me. Now we totally get one another and picked up things from the other too! The spice isn't there as much as it used to - we've been together 7 years so the waters are calmer but the ocean is far deeper
My partner comes from a very large, patriarchal, extremly traditional, religious family and of all the people in the world he married me lol ( a non-religious, free spirited, liberal, feminist that is pretty unconservative and fairly eccentric). We argue and disargree about most things and both of us have strong personalities, but I am able to hold my own ! We have learned to allow each other to explore our own interests separately. Ex he does his religious stuff on his own or with freinds and I do stuff he does not like concerts, festivals, cultural events and theatre on my own. When you have been with someone for a long time it is kind of funny when you suddenly realize you know how to read each other pretty well. Ex I know how to read his facial expressions and can usually tell what he is going to say. The best is when your partners does not speak English as a first language and they say things not exactly correctly in English, but it just seems normal to you until someone asks them to clairify lol .
Then again people change and grow because most of the stuff my husband tolerates now would have resulted in epic drama and conflict when we were first married. Ex he gave me money to buy a piece of jewellery as a gift and said he did not care if I added more money to it if what I wanted was more expensive. I found something I really really loved that was like 90% more. When I showed him what I bought I did not want to tell him what I spend because I thought he would have been extremely mad. He eventually twisted the asnwer of me. His response was confirmation of why we are still married, " Oh my God ! Are you serious? It is really nice and you deserve it, but wow you are crazy". Smart answer .
Husband's out there when you wife buys herself a really expensive piece of non-refundable jewelry .. you can
1. Give her a lecture and make her feel bad about it
2. Try and get to return it with the known reality you can't get back the full price
3. You can tell her she deserves it .. and get the rewards that go along with keeping your wife happy .
My partner comes from a very large, patriarchal, extremly traditional, religious family and of all the people in the world he married me lol ( a non-religious, free spirited, liberal, feminist that is pretty unconservative and fairly eccentric). We argue and disargree about most things and both of us have strong personalities, but I am able to hold my own ! We have learned to allow each other to explore our own interests separately. Ex he does his religious stuff on his own or with freinds and I do stuff he does not like concerts, festivals, cultural events and theatre on my own. When you have been with someone for a long time it is kind of funny when you suddenly realize you know how to read each other pretty well. Ex I know how to read his facial expressions and can usually tell what he is going to say. The best is when your partners does not speak English as a first language and they say things not exactly correctly in English, but it just seems normal to you until someone asks them to clairify lol .
Then again people change and grow because most of the stuff my husband tolerates now would have resulted in epic drama and conflict when we were first married. Ex he gave me money to buy a piece of jewellery as a gift and said he did not care if I added more money to it if what I wanted was more expensive. I found something I really really loved that was like 90% more. When I showed him what I bought I did not want to tell him what I spend because I thought he would have been extremely mad. He eventually twisted the asnwer of me. His response was confirmation of why we are still married, " Oh my God ! Are you serious? It is really nice and you deserve it, but wow you are crazy". Smart answer .
Husband's out there when you wife buys herself a really expensive piece of non-refundable jewelry .. you can
1. Give her a lecture and make her feel bad about it
2. Try and get to return it with the known reality you can't get back the full price
3. You can tell her she deserves it .. and get the rewards that go along with keeping your wife happy .
Nice post! I can definitely relate to the reading facial expression and just body language in general. If I come home from work and something bad happened I can instantly tell.. No words need to be spoken at all. Same thing with language! I had to laugh when you said others ask to clarify when you just know what he is saying - same thing with my partner. That said, his English skills have improved tremendously because of me. I just need to continue working on the Spanish
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- you can count on it as i'm sure you're already aware.
Me too!
! Though we look like we could be from the same culture, but no one ever guess right for either of us anyways.
! Are you serious? 
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