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Old 04-16-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Check this out... maybe you'll find it interesting, maybe not..

Todays temps.. I used the map to show you a visual of where the locations are.

#1. Left chart Danbury, CT. Mostly 50s all day went 60° and above for just 2 hours 1-3pm.
#2 middle chart Windsor Locks, CT stayed in the 60s most of the day 11am-4pm. 67° Max
#3 right chart is Groton, CT Couldnt even get past 55°.




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Old 04-16-2013, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Default Cold North Dakota!

Wow. I didnt know the details until I just checked.

Check out the departure Highs and Lows for Bismarck! Now thats what I call sustained cold. Wow.

Normal High has been mid 50s past week but they've been in the 30s since April 8th(except twice).

Their highs are where the normal lows should be.



Good link to save. Just change last 3 letters at the end.
Bismarck: Bismarck Municipal Airport, ND Climate Data - :: MichiganWxSystem
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
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[quote=nei;29152969]You got any models or links supporting the pattern shift? Some concrete evidence for my hopes will be welcome.


Don't have access to the Euro model but I'm thinking it is the model that is showing that pattern shift you are after.
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
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Don't get too puffed up re your temps Woodrow....we could always share with you! In fact I'm sure we will be soon.

I saw a couple from England recently...they were just about to leave and head back to England. I mentioned they should pick up a few shovels as I gather they are rather in short supply in England.



Boy those English don't have a very good sense of humour.
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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Don't have access to the Euro model but I'm thinking it is the model that is showing that pattern shift you are after.
I thought the Euro was too but it doesnt show a pattern change. It only goes out 10 days.

00z 12z ECMWF Images

There's the 00z and 12z with that link.
Click on the 00zDay 6-10 850mb T Anomaly NA and the 12zDay 6-10 850mb T Anomaly NA to see the 6-10day 850mb temps
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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You got any models or links supporting the pattern shift? Some concrete evidence for my hopes will be welcome.



Close enough, but it's variable.

For Trenton:

Spring 2013: 25°C on April 8
Spring 2012: 25°C on March 13
Spring 2011: 27°C on March 18
Spring 2010: 25°C on March 21
Spring 2009: 26°C on April 18
Spring 2008: 25°C on April 17, 24°C on April 10
Spring 2007: 28°C on March 27

Because it's earlier, the heat will feel a bit more fleeting.
Brett Anderson (long range meteorologist) as well as several others think that by the 24th or so, the Alaskan ridge breaks down, and this allows more of a Pacific flow (and cuts off the last of the Arctic flow) across the far northern states and southern Canada:

Pattern Change after the 24th - Canadian Weather Blog Weather Blog

I like Brett a lot, but to be fair, this is not really rocket science; April is the month when the main northern Jet Stream starts to retreat back into Canada – but it does it in fits and starts/stops. As the subtropical highs start building and moving northward up both the East and West coasts, the jet normally retreats northward. Pretty typical stuff.

Interesting data for the first 25 C for Trenton. Looks like they often see their first 25 C highs in late March. Interior South Jersey can be down right torrid in summer too. I was in Franklin last summer for a week, it was in the upper 90's EVERY day.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:36 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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Since records began in Fargo, every year except 1881 and 2013 has had at least one 50F day by this point in time, so it's very abnormal. 1881 finally reached 50F on April 17, and it looks like 2013 will break that record by at least 6 days. Per the GFS, it looks likely that Fargo will crack 50F sometime between the 23th and the 30th, but on the other hand it looks like a close shave - just 3F colder than modeled and it won't make it to 50F. It would be neat if the first 50F didn't occur until May - the record books will have to be ripped apart (metaphorically speaking, of course).

In any case temperatures will stay safely below 50F for the next week, 60F looks unlikely until May, and normal to colder than normal conditions look to persist for at least the next 20 days.
Yea, that seems more like it.

Even though the 1881 record will be broken this year most likely, I think Fargo has a really good chance of seeing +50 F after the 24th of April. I'll bet alot of folks up in Fargo would not be happy if it did not hit 50 F until May

Still, that's mighty cold for me. I hit 63 F today 70 miles east of NYC here in southern Connecticut, and I hope to get near 70 F on Wed. I guess Florida has thinned my blood
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:42 PM
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Still, that's mighty cold for me. I hit 63 F today 70 miles east of NYC here in southern Connecticut, and I hope to get near 70 F on Wed. I guess Florida has thinned my blood
67°F for me. It get warmer away from the coast.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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67°F for me. It get warmer away from the coast.
I'm not right on the coast, but yes, inland can be warmer than the coast, SST are still in the mid 40's off Long Island. My brother said he hit 74 F in Trenton today...lucky guy.

My guess is a lot of NWS stations will get near and maybe over 70 F on Wed no problem....and that sun will really be kicking butt.

My kind of weather is coming


PS...Want to take some bets on the 1st 90 F high from Washington DC to Boston?
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Actually Washington DC and Baltimore have both hit 90 already, I'm pretty surprised, not even Dallas has managed to crack 90 yet.
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