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The South according to City-Data, couple acres of Jimbo’s cornfield in Mississippi but only at low tide
Subtropical zone according to City-Data: a mythical creature only heard about in folk tales and ancient legends, but some adventurers claim they’ve seen it from a distance before it disappeared
The South according to City-Data, couple acres of Jimbo’s cornfield in Mississippi but only at low tide
Subtropical zone according to City-Data: a mythical creature only heard about in folk tales and ancient legends, but some adventurers claim they’ve seen it from a distance before it disappeared
, this post seems to get to something about these discussions, it speaks to the absurd expectations of this one climate type. There's nothing like this when it comes to subarctic climates, it's because the posters on this forum over idealize the word subtropical, they confuse subtropical with tropical, often without realizing it.
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, this post seems to get to something about these discussions, it speaks to the absurd expectations of this one climate type. There's nothing like this when it comes to subarctic climates, it's because the posters on this forum over idealize the word subtropical, they confuse subtropical with tropical, often without realizing it.
That's not quite true, there are several people who like to say places like Winnipeg and Minneapolis are subpolar, when they are clearly warm summer continental and hot summer continental, respectively; just because of how cold they are in the winter
You don't live in the "deep south" of you live in Rock Hill SC. Just sayin. Valdosta GA, maybe, Mobile, AL, Savannah, but not upstate SC.
People have different definitions of the deep south. Some of them are on a state-by-state designation where a whole state is either in the deep south or it isn't. By this definition, South Carolina is always considered to be in the deep south. Culturally and historically, SC is the deep sout.
If you go by the geography based definitions, then RockHill is in the piedmont south along with Raleigh and Atlanta. I'd say the deep south starts about 100 miles due east or 75 miles SE of Rock Hill once you are a bit lower elevation(<300' ish as opposed to rockhill at 676')
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People have different definitions of the deep south. Some of them are on a state-by-state designation where a whole state is either in the deep south or it isn't. By this definition, South Carolina is always considered to be in the deep south. Culturally and historically, SC is the deep sout.
If you go by the geography based definitions, then RockHill is in the piedmont south along with Raleigh and Atlanta. I'd say the deep south starts about 100 miles due east or 75 miles SE of Rock Hill once you are a bit lower elevation(<300' ish as opposed to rockhill at 676')
Geographically, the fall line (the line between the Piedmont and the Atlantic Coastal Plain/Gulf Coastal Plain) in the states below 36°N is the delineater
That's not quite true, there are several people who like to say places like Winnipeg and Minneapolis are subpolar, when they are clearly warm summer continental and hot summer continental, respectively; just because of how cold they are in the winter
That's what I mean, if they mention subarctic it is extremely broad but it seems subtropical is this mythical creature that's so absurdly narrow in definition.
If they over idealized subarctic like subtropical they would consider a lot of Alaska "unworthy" of such a designation.
That's what I mean, if they mention subarctic it is extremely broad but it seems subtropical is this mythical creature that's so absurdly narrow in definition.
If they over idealized subarctic like subtropical they would consider a lot of Alaska "unworthy" of such a designation.
Subarctic climates have distinct vegetation from "core" temperate climates. Many subtropical climates have vegetation very similar to the "core" temperate zone.
Subarctic climates have distinct vegetation from "core" temperate climates. Many subtropical climates have vegetation very similar to the "core" temperate zone.
The one thing many posters do here is they define subtropical by the warmest possible temp, so cities like Brisbane and Tampa are mentioned as the "quintessential" examples when they are in fact borderline cases just like Baltimore and Washington Dc.
A "core" subtropical climate would have winter daily averages near 50 since that is around the mid point between the freezing mark and 64 degrees, the tropical threshold. Now if we're judging subtropical by it's core rather than being on the tropical boundary then I'd expect a mixed evergreen/deciduous forest biome and that's exactly what you'd find in the deep south.
In Augusta for instance the coldest daily average is near 50 in January(47 and 49 at Bush and Daniel field) and Augusta is yellow pine dominated with a mixture of deciduous trees like sweetgum, bald cypress, pecan, yellow poplar and evergreens like cherry laurel, holly, sand laurel oak, swamp laurel oak. Water oaks are kind of semi-deciduous, turkey oaks are deciduous but are delayed so they keep their leaves until January or so. Southern magnolia is heavily cultivated but I don't know if it is native, some asian evergreens have naturalized like ligustrum, photinia fraseri, ect. Spanish moss is native here but it is uncommon in residential areas.
When you get to Savannah southern live oaks are native along with sabal palmetto, spanish moss is everywhere, if course it is still yellow pine dominated just like most of the Atlantic coastal plain.
If you're looking for a humid subtropical "core" vegetation type that would be it for the US.
That's what I mean, if they mention subarctic it is extremely broad but it seems subtropical is this mythical creature that's so absurdly narrow in definition.
If they over idealized subarctic like subtropical they would consider a lot of Alaska "unworthy" of such a designation.
I don't consider the Panhandle, Gulf of Alaska (including Anchorage) and the Aleutian Islands to be "true" subarctic.
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, this post seems to get to something about these discussions, it speaks to the absurd expectations of this one climate type. There's nothing like this when it comes to subarctic climates, it's because the posters on this forum over idealize the word subtropical, they confuse subtropical with tropical, often without realizing it
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