NZ or Virginia more subtropical, part 2 (records, sunshine, compare, maximum)
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It' not behind a pay wall.Maybe it just doesn't like aussies?
I'll check the last 39 years ( which I've done before), but that won't be screen shotable. As for links, my computer competency journey hasn't reached that point yet
20 c is only 4-6 c warmer for most towns, so somewhere will reach it, hardly a wild swing of biblical proportions.
Uhm everything is screen shotable - use the snipping tool. Lamest excuse in the book.
If norfolk had auckland summers, it would still be an environment evolved towards dormancy. If auckland had virginia summers there would be little change in what could grow there. So overall auckland would still have a more subtropical environment, and environment is the best use for the subtropical descriptor .
I do agree that annual highest or lowest temperature means little in defining a climate overall . Invercargill gets a warmer annual highest temperature than auckland, but there is nothing significant about that imo.
If Auckland had Virginia’s summers it would be a nearly tropical subtropical climate, NZ is oceanic but it has tropical characteristics due to coldest month average coldest similar to Northern Florida in US. If Auckland has Virginia’s summers it would be like Florida a subtropical with strong tropical characteristics. If Virginia had Auckland’s summers it would be oceanic, it would be like Scotland. NZ is not more subtropical than Virginia but it is more tropical due to milder winters. NZ is s warm oceanic, tropical vegetation like the one in Florida can grow. Auckland is infact way milder but not more subtropical.
Well San Francisco can grow more things than Richmond or even Montgomery that doesn't make it more tropical
San Francisco is literally cool year round no heat at all. It’s like Montgomery never left March behind. Montgomery is a pure subtropical. Coldest month is around the middle of continental and tropical and the summers are hotter than FL, it is fire!!! True San Francisco at hardiness zone 10 would grow lots of plants Montgomery can’t, but the native vegetation of Montgomery is subtropical and being hardiness zone 8 it can start to grow the hardier citrus. Btw Sabal minor, saw palmetto, and needle palms are native to the area! It is pure subtropical. The native vegetation of San Francisco area is pure Mediterranean, but SF is literally cool year round it’s almost Isles of Scilly with a cool year round climate. Csb warm-summer Mediterranean is like the dry summer version of Cfb oceanic. San Francisco is not subtropical, only the latitude is. LA is subtropical, it is hot-summer Mediterranean so basically a dry summer subtropical.
I love how the OP changed the post from the North Island to all of New Zealand. If it's between all of New Zealand and Virginia that is a different story but given that New Zealand stretches over a vast distance length wise it's also not comparable. As the other thread showed if it's between the North Island and Virginia then the North Island wins almost every time but again what are we arguing over as neither are really subtropical anyway
Then under your book Crestview, Florida is not subtropical because it got down to -7.8°C in January 17th. Crestview is definitely subtropical. Ok you have your book, but seriously improve it, systems don’t work like that. And no Virginia’s winters are not continental yet, they are still temperate, and having the hot summers it’s subtropical. If Virginia had NZ’s summers it would be oceanic, and if BZ has Virginia’s summers it would be subtropical, the winters of NZ and Virginia are still both in the C(temperate group), what makes one subtropical and the other oceanic is the summers not winters.
Florida? The 'average' winter lows in Miami are around 16 deg C even in Jacksonville they are about 6 deg C! In Richmond (Virginia) it is BELOW FREEZING, that is the AVERAGE and for the AVERAGE to actually be below FREEZING it means that Winter nights in Richmond are far too cold for 'sub-tropical'.
If Auckland had Virginia’s summers it would be a nearly tropical subtropical climate, NZ is oceanic but it has tropical characteristics due to coldest month average coldest similar to Northern Florida in US. If Auckland has Virginia’s summers it would be like Florida a subtropical with strong tropical characteristics. If Virginia had Auckland’s summers it would be oceanic, it would be like Scotland. NZ is not more subtropical than Virginia but it is more tropical due to milder winters. NZ is s warm oceanic, tropical vegetation like the one in Florida can grow. Auckland is infact way milder but not more subtropical.
This makes sense to me, though, surprising as it seems, unlike Virginia nowhere in Scotland averages sub-freezing winter lows (unless you count the mountains of course).
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. Crestview is definitely subtropical. Ok you have your book, but seriously improve it, systems don’t work like that. And no Virginia’s winters are not continental yet, they are still temperate, and having the hot summers it’s subtropical. If Virginia had NZ’s summers it would be oceanic, and if BZ has Virginia’s summers it would be subtropical, the winters of NZ and Virginia are still both in the C(temperate group), what makes one subtropical and the other oceanic is the summers not winters.