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So every place in the world that has an official language has in the process "made all other languages illegal"?
California has English as its only official language, does it not?
Not the same thing, in California the official language only applies to government. And it means that government activities are only done in English. There is no language office authority going around fining and closing places down for using the non prescribed language.
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Zack, you should note that Quebec has more minority language services (in English) than any other jurisdiction in Canada and the United States except for the Canadian province of New Brunswick.
From kindergarten to your PhD or MD in university, from anglo hospitals to English driver's licence exams to your electricity bill. All of this available in English.
But it's not enough, is it?
Huh, I didn't say that? I didn't make any assumptions, nor did I know about any of that.
Not the same thing, in California the official language only applies to government. And it means that government activities are only done in English. There is no language office authority going around fining and closing places down for using the non prescribed language.
Huh, I didn't say that? I didn't make any assumptions, nor did I know about any of that.
Nevertheless, it should help to inform your analysis (if you can call it that) of the situation.
An ignorant overview. You have a tenuous and inaccurate grip on Canadian history. I guess I'll throw my history degree largely earned at a Canadian university in the trash, because guy on the internet #35681 read some biased news articles for his school project.
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Nevertheless, it should help to inform your analysis (if you can call it that) of the situation.
Wow you guys get nasty real fast, and you think I guess trying to belittle me makes you what the bigger man? My goodness, I didn't really have a negative view of Quebec before this, just thought the language police were kind of harsh and draconian, but now all I can assume is all of Quebec is filled with douchebags and jerks.
Wow you guys get nasty real fast, and you think I guess trying to belittle me makes you what the bigger man? My goodness, I didn't really have a negative view of Quebec before this, just thought the language police were kind of harsh and draconian, but now all I can assume is all of Quebec is filled with douchebags and jerks.
Well you keep spouting inanities like "all other languages are illegal" and keep saying "language police" when it's been clearly shown that that's not the case. How do you expect people to react?
And BTW is an American (from Maryland I think) and I am not even originally from Quebec. So there you go.
SF is not the most liberal city in the united states anymore. The increasing Hispanic population, and white flight in CA has changed the political landscape considerably over the last 20 years. I would say that both Portland and Seattle are more liberal than SF is these days; however, the Hispanic population in Portland and Seattle is expected to double over the next 10-15 years, so we might see a spike in religious culture in those cities as well. You can already see in on the east side of Portland. It feels more like the bad parts of Sacramento with crap weather everyday.
Well you keep spouting inanities like "all other languages are illegal" and keep saying "language police" when it's been clearly shown that that's not the case. How do you expect people to react?
And BTW is an American (from Maryland I think) and I am not even originally from Quebec. So there you go.
The slant of the article on the poll is actually a good example of biased reporting, because in the poll the people who said they were thinking of leaving did not cite language as a major factor. They cited economic outlook, jobs, taxes and political uncertainty (possible separation from Canada) as the main reasons. Not language. But the CBC still chose to talk to this Marc Stamos guy and make the focus of its story on the fact that he doesn't feel welcome speaking English.
I mean, it's not a secret that a significant segment of Quebec's anglo community is not satisfied with the language situation and would prefer to use English even more than they have an opportunity to at the moment (for many of them, this means all of the time, including any and all interactions with francophones).
Of course, some of them are also quite happy with having French as the main language of their public life here.
SF is not the most liberal city in the united states anymore. The increasing Hispanic population, and white flight in CA has changed the political landscape considerably over the last 20 years. I would say that both Portland and Seattle are more liberal than SF is these days; however, the Hispanic population in Portland and Seattle is expected to double over the next 10-15 years, so we might see a spike in religious culture in those cities as well. You can already see in on the east side of Portland. It feels more like the bad parts of Sacramento with crap weather everyday.
Interesting point, but I thought the Hispanic commmunity in Frisco was shrinking.
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