McSally vs Sinema (areas, races, map)

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by AZ Manager

Ducey took the governor race in a landslide AFTER the whole Red for Ed fiasco. Any thought that Arizona is turning purple or blue is without merit, just looking at presidential voting history shows no notable shift in decades. The only real movement was Trump ran people to third parties, not to the Dems, which is why I don't get the whole pro-Trump campaign McSally ran.

The fact is that McSally ran a terrible campaign and fumbled the most important question at her debate is why she may very well lose the race. Had this been a race with Lesko for example it wouldn't be close. We will see how moderate Sinema is in the Senate, if she goes to the left as expected there likely won't be a second term.

There’s been a lot of movement actually. Arizona sent 5 democratic congressmen, the SOS race is currently only separated by 400 votes, and the superintendent race was just called for a Democrat.

Arizona has always been light red, but it looks like it’s getting less light red.

The Ducey Garcia race is not representative, rarely does a candidate just give up like Garcia did. Last time, DuVal was pretty close, a competent challenger could have defeated Ducey.

[aga412]

Perhaps I missed it, but I’m not hearing a whole lot of positives about Sinema, just a lot of negatives about McSally. What is exactly appealing about Sinema? Or is it nothing - she just isn’t McSally?

[Champ le monstre du lac]

Originally Posted by aga412

Perhaps I missed it, but I’m not hearing a whole lot of positives about Sinema, just a lot of negatives about McSally. What is exactly appealing about Sinema? Or is it nothing - she just isn’t McSally?

As they say, mid-terms are often referendum elections. A lot of the disappearing Republican values that McCain and even Goldwater embodied are still present in Arizona. Perhaps many of these independent minded voters bought in to that campaign theme of hers "What's good for Arizonan's" coupled with her voting record. Watch an interview of Sinema's and count how many times she says the word "Arizonans". Maybe the word resonated, regardless of how genuine it may or may not have been.

Watch an interview of McSally' and it's likely to be 80% attack and smear, same smack talking narrative we've seen under this president. Her campaign had the depth of a soapdish. It's lazy and myopic and doesn't give credibility to the candidate that's running. It just distracts and divides. I'll echo others sentiments in this thread, Sinema's voting record in the senate remains to be seen. Anything can happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHIPLUelLRw

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

Originally Posted by Desert_SW_77

As they say, mid-terms are often referendum elections. A lot of the disappearing Republican values that McCain and even Goldwater embodied are still present in Arizona.

What are those “disappearing Republican values”?

[Mouldy Old Schmo]

When the dust is settled, will we learn that a considerable number of people who voted for McCain ended up voting for Sinema? Is she closer to McCain’s views and style than McSally?

[wase4711]

McSally ran the most negative, insult laden campaign I have ever seen, and that says alot after living in the political cesspool known as Illinois for many decades, and dealing with the political criminals that we dealt with there..
Terrible campaigning, no real message or vision, aside from bragging about her military service, and how much she loves Trump...Even now a days, you better have some sort of vision, or at least act positively, or you cant hope to win any election..I didnt want Sinema to win under any circumstances, but, after months of listening to the hate mongering coming from McSally,and her complete lack of any vision or plan for Arizona, I didnt think McSally had a chance, and it looks like that is the case..

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by wase4711

McSally ran the most negative, insult laden campaign I have ever seen, and that says alot after living in the political cesspool known as Illinois for many decades, and dealing with the political criminals that we dealt with there..
Terrible campaigning, no real message or vision, aside from bragging about her military service, and how much she loves Trump...Even now a days, you better have some sort of vision, or at least act positively, or you cant hope to win any election..I didnt want Sinema to win under any circumstances, but, after months of listening to the hate mongering coming from McSally,and her complete lack of any vision or plan for Arizona, I didnt think McSally had a chance, and it looks like that is the case..

It was not all McSally. Many of those ads were placed by right wing PACs. They, legally at least, do not coordinate with the campaign. I is her fault though that she never ran anything positive. The left PACs also ran ads, but they were more about McSally's record on health care than attacking her personally.

[wase4711]

yep, the candidate inevitably has the responsibility for what goes on in their campaign, and, she could have easily come out and shot down some of those absurd right wing PAC ads, but, she used them to add to her hate infested feeding frenzy, and, it most likely cost her the election..
Too bad the supreme court has allowed the PACS to spend endless amounts of money spewing hatred, from both sides, and making our political process a painful, hate infested process...

[keninaz]

One is anti gay, McSally, and the other is gay. Go figure.
I understand now with McSally losing that the governor may well appoint her to continue Kyle's temporary appointment until the next election.
It appears to me that they will both serve as Senators.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by keninaz

One is anti gay, McSally, and the other is gay. Go figure.
I understand now with McSally losing that the governor may well appoint her to continue Kyle's temporary appointment until the next election.
It appears to me that they will both serve as Senators.

That is exactly what will happen if Sinema wins this election. And, it will be an entirely justifiable choice, since he has to select a Republican, and she has more than a million votes behind her.

Originally Posted by aga412

Perhaps I missed it, but I’m not hearing a whole lot of positives about Sinema, just a lot of negatives about McSally. What is exactly appealing about Sinema? Or is it nothing - she just isn’t McSally?

For one, her willingness to work across the aisle, which is a rare thing these days. I think that is one reason why a lot of McCain supporters backed her.