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Old 01-13-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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Culturally they are part of the 'Sinosphere' and like Korea I'd say they were heavily influenced by China. A lot of Vietnamese culture seems indistinguishable from Chinese. The temples and pagodas, for instance, just look like the ones in China. I think the wats and architecture in Burma, Thailand and Cambodia are more classically Southeast Asian.
How about muslims nations like malaysia and indonedsia, also something that doesn't neither in sinosphere nor indosphere like The philippine and mongolia.
what is your opinion about these people?
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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How about muslims nations and something that doesn't neither in sinosphere nor indosphere like The philippine and mongolia. what do you think about these people?
Mongolia has a better preserved identity in Mongolia itself, but a lot of Inner Mongolia has been Sinified. When the Mongols conquered China they adopted Chinese culture so there quite a few Chinese who are Mongol or part Mongol. Their religion - a mix of Buddhism and Shamanism - is a bit like Korea and Siberia, although they speak an Altaic language like much of Central Asia and use the Cyrillic alphabet.

The Philippines is as real mixed back. A diverse range of different ethnicities, mostly Catholic in religion, they don't really belong in any 'sphere.' I'm not sure I fully agree with Thailand, Laos and Cambodia being in the 'Indosphere' either, I think most of SE Asia is it's own region.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:21 PM
 
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Mongolia has a better preserved identity in Mongolia itself, but a lot of Inner Mongolia has been Sinified. When the Mongols conquered China they adopted Chinese culture so there quite a few Chinese who are Mongol or part Mongol. Their religion - a mix of Buddhism and Shamanism - is a bit like Korea and Siberia, although they speak an Altaic language like much of Central Asia and use the Cyrillic alphabet.

The Philippines is as real mixed back. A diverse range of different ethnicities, mostly Catholic in religion, they don't really belong in any 'sphere.' I'm not sure I fully agree with Thailand, Laos and Cambodia being in the 'Indosphere' either, I think most of SE Asia is it's own region.
I red that the Mongol on that time was powerful in military but lake in culture, so when they conquered the China,the Han-Chinese absorb some of them into Han-Chinese culture.
I think Han-Chinese culture is a really power culture that could absorb many people into it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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I red that the Mongol on that time was powerful in military but lake in culture, so when they conquered the China,the Han-Chinese absorb some of them into Han-Chinese culture.
I think Han-Chinese culture is a really power culture that could absorb many people into it.
China is an extremely influential culture. It's shadow is cast all over Asia, even as far as Arabia through technology and handicrafts, for instance. Indeed China has had a huge impact on the world. Every Asia nation, especially east of India, is quite strongly influenced by China.

China's history, I think, is how the cultural ideals of the early dynasties (pre Qin) of the North China Plain spread to other states, like the Wu, and how these disparate people who inhabited China were either Sinicised or driven out or a mix of both.

The Mongols didn't have much of 'high culture' at the time, and China was the 'prestige' culture in East Asia.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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As a mainland chinese who grow up in Beijing, southeast asians are viewed as inferior creature; my grandfather who was a PLA general referred them as " little dark monkey"
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:23 PM
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As a mainland chinese who grow up in Beijing, southeast asians are viewed as inferior creature; my grandfather who was a PLA general referred them as " little dark monkey"
How about your generation? Do you guys still hold on to those views?
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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As a mainland chinese who grow up in Beijing, southeast asians are viewed as inferior creature; my grandfather who was a PLA general referred them as " little dark monkey"
I really think that they should divide Indo-Chinese away from southeast asian. I means Indo-Chinese generally don't look like southeast asian.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:20 PM
 
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China is an extremely influential culture. It's shadow is cast all over Asia, even as far as Arabia through technology and handicrafts, for instance. Indeed China has had a huge impact on the world. Every Asia nation, especially east of India, is quite strongly influenced by China.

China's history, I think, is how the cultural ideals of the early dynasties (pre Qin) of the North China Plain spread to other states, like the Wu, and how these disparate people who inhabited China were either Sinicised or driven out or a mix of both.

The Mongols didn't have much of 'high culture' at the time, and China was the 'prestige' culture in East Asia.
I think in southeast asia, khmer/cambodian culture is maybe a really powerful culture on that time too. It complately absorbed those Tai-kadai people who lake in culture and came later in late 10-13 century.
I think if viet/kinh haven't been rules by Han-Chinese before they would be absorb into Khmer/cambodian culture too.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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I really think that they should divide Indo-Chinese away from southeast asian. I means Indo-Chinese generally don't look like southeast asian.
Agreed brother
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:23 AM
 
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As a mainland chinese who grow up in Beijing, southeast asians are viewed as inferior creature; my grandfather who was a PLA general referred them as " little dark monkey"
What about Southern Chinese? It seems the Chinese have a habit of calling other peoples 'Barbarians', and thinking they are the centre of the world.
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