Why did the Republican Party get so small in California? (how much, live)

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by Finper

Don't tell me I already know Repubs have no good candidates here but Travis Allen and he didn't get far in this liberal bastion. Tell the poster here (Kttam) who hates all Repubs that we aren't the problem just the helpless citizens watching the destruction of a once great state

I don't hate all Republicans.

I despise the far-right branch that controls your party -- the ones who never got over Roe v. Wade and think people should go back to the fake "Stepford" culture of the 1950s.

I also despise people who naively think everything they have, they got "on their own". That's a lie about 99.9% of the time.

You either:

1.) Had inheritance or married someone with one
2.) Had a parent/family member get you a job, or married someone that did
3.) Had a parent/family member help provide you with an education, or married someone that did
4.) Benefitted directly from a government program: the military, welfare, HUD loan, TANF, education grants or loans, Social Security, MediCal/Medicaid, a govt contract of any type, Disability, govt business loans and grants, tax write-offs, City/County/State/Federal employment, a highway or road built and maintained by a government entity to-and-from your business.
5.) Are descended of someone who directly benefited from a government program, thereby, raising your own chances of being successful
6.) Married someone who benefited from a government program or married to a descendent who benefited from the same.

Just be honest and admit that we've all -- at one point or another -- been the beneficiaries (directly or indirectly) of government largess and quit acting like you've only paid into it and never taken anything in return or benefited from it.

THAT, above all else, is what irks me about Republicans!

Lying is ugly.

[BeauCharles]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

As far as the Republican party, it's changed and is no longer the party it was even a couple of decades ago.

Neither is the Democratic Party.

Originally Posted by Fin Wizard

Unless of course the Republican party decides to change its platform of being the party catering to old white people.

How exactly are they doing this? When people toss around that expression ("old white people") they just come off as bigoted towards them for whatever reason.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

Don't tell me I already know Repubs have no good candidates here but Travis Allen and he didn't get far in this liberal bastion. Tell the poster here (Kttam) who hates all Repubs that we aren't the problem just the helpless citizens watching the destruction of a once great state

I don't think it was the fault of Democrats that Cox made it to the ballot rather than Travis Allen, do you?

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

I'm a Republican, and I'm none of those things. As I said before, I'm retired, couldn't give a crap about abortion, gay marriage, marijuana, birth control...

I want less government in my life, not more.

P.S. My wife was born in the Philippines, and my grandparents in Russia.

Ironically you use the exact same approach that you are complaining about when it comes to defining liberals. We all detest rich people and want free stuff according to your posts.

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

I don't hate all Republicans.

I despise the far-right branch that controls your party -- the ones who never got over Roe v. Wade and think people should go back to the fake "Stepford" culture of the 1950s.

I also despise people who naively think everything they have, they got "on their own". That's a lie about 99.9% of the time.

You either:

1.) Had inheritance or married someone with one
2.) Had a parent/family member get you a job, or married someone that did
3.) Had a parent/family member help provide you with an education, or married someone that did
4.) Benefitted directly from a government program: the military, welfare, HUD loan, TANF, education grants or loans, Social Security, MediCal/Medicaid, a govt contract of any type, Disability, govt business loans and grants, tax write-offs, City/County/State/Federal employment, a highway or road built and maintained by a government entity to-and-from your business.
5.) Are descended of someone who directly benefited from a government program, thereby, raising your own chances of being successful
6.) Married someone who benefited from a government program or married to a descendent who benefited from the same.

Just be honest and admit that we've all -- at one point or another -- been the beneficiaries (directly or indirectly) of government largess and quit acting like you've only paid into it and never taken anything in return or benefited from it.

THAT, above all else, is what irks me about Republicans!

Lying is ugly.

I'm sorry you're so jealous.

See, that's the difference between us. I see someone successful and I say, I want to be successful too.

You see someone successful and you say, waa, it's not fair. You didn't build that.

The reality is most successful people worked their ass off to get there. I know I did. I know small business owners that put EVERYTHING they had into a business, worked 60 or 80 hours a week, only to have people like you say, they didn't build that.

Disgusting

[V8 Vega]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

I don't hate all Republicans.

I despise the far-right branch that controls your party -- the ones who never got over Roe v. Wade and think people should go back to the fake "Stepford" culture of the 1950s.

I also despise people who naively think everything they have, they got "on their own". That's a lie about 99.9% of the time.

You either:

1.) Had inheritance or married someone with one
2.) Had a parent/family member get you a job, or married someone that did
3.) Had a parent/family member help provide you with an education, or married someone that did
4.) Benefitted directly from a government program: the military, welfare, HUD loan, TANF, education grants or loans, Social Security, MediCal/Medicaid, a govt contract of any type, Disability, govt business loans and grants, tax write-offs, City/County/State/Federal employment, a highway or road built and maintained by a government entity to-and-from your business.
5.) Are descended of someone who directly benefited from a government program, thereby, raising your own chances of being successful
6.) Married someone who benefited from a government program or married to a descendent who benefited from the same.

Just be honest and admit that we've all -- at one point or another -- been the beneficiaries (directly or indirectly) of government largess and quit acting like you've only paid into it and never taken anything in return or benefited from it.

THAT, above all else, is what irks me about Republicans!

Lying is ugly.

I have never benefited from any of your above things, no not one. And goverment waste and inefficiency is unbelievable.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

I'm sorry you're so jealous.

See, that's the difference between us. I see someone successful and I say, I want to be successful too.

You see someone successful and you say, waa, it's not fair. You didn't build that.

The reality is most successful people worked their ass off to get there. I know I did. I know small business owners that put EVERYTHING they had into a business, worked 60 or 80 hours a week, only to have people like you say, they didn't build that.

Disgusting

Millions of people in America, and no doubt billions around the world, work their asses off everyday just to survive ... and never achieve what you call “success.”

What you call “success” is material wealth. It is shallow and vacuous.

For some, success would be defined as humility, graciousness, kindness, a willing embrace of simplicity as a guide, good health, service toward mutual benefit in society, good humor in always doing no harm in daily life.

I see that as the difference between you and truly “successful” people. Your self-absorbtion is cringeworthy.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

I'm sorry you're so jealous.

See, that's the difference between us. I see someone successful and I say, I want to be successful too.

You see someone successful and you say, waa, it's not fair. You didn't build that.

The reality is most successful people worked their ass off to get there. I know I did. I know small business owners that put EVERYTHING they had into a business, worked 60 or 80 hours a week, only to have people like you say, they didn't build that.

Disgusting

No, what's disgusting is perpetuating the myth that conservatives work harder, make better decisions and are always 100% self-sufficient and it's repeated ad nauseum in these forums on a daily basis with anecdotal BS bootstrapper stories. It's used as a reason not to provide assistance to those who are in need, to condemn people who in their opinion had too many kids or had them when they were too young, and to mock people who are unemployed or underemployed. It gets really old.

A few years ago on these forums I recounted the story of how financially strapped I was when my husband walked out on me and the kids. I wasn't asking for sympathy- I didn't need any but what I didn't expect was a comment from a conservative poster that the whole situation was 100% my fault because I should have known better than to marry a man who would walk out on his family after 12 years of marriage

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Millions of people in America, and no doubt billions around the world, work their asses off everyday just to survive ... and never achieve what you call “success.”

What you call “success” is material wealth. It is shallow and vacuous.

For some, success would be defined as humility, graciousness, kindness, a willing embrace of simplicity as a guide, good health, service toward mutual benefit in society, good humor in always doing no harm in daily life.

I see that as the difference between you and truly “successful” people. Your self-absorbtion is cringeworthy.

well said Mutt

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Millions of people in America, and no doubt billions around the world, work their asses off everyday just to survive ... and never achieve what you call “success.”

What you call “success” is material wealth. It is shallow and vacuous.

For some, success would be defined as humility, graciousness, kindness, a willing embrace of simplicity as a guide, good health, service toward mutual benefit in society, good humor in always doing no harm in daily life.

I see that as the difference between you and truly “successful” people. Your self-absorbtion is cringeworthy.

I'm not ratting their success the OP is. But since you asked, success to me is staying off drugs, staying in school, being a productive part of society, having friends and family that love you.

The material crap is just a nice bonus. I don't hate people that have more than me. I don't hate people that have less than me.

I hate people that waste their life, then cry about mine.