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Yes it is a puzzle why a country and government that gets so much criticism from its inhabitants and neighbors would be so attractive to them as an immigration destination
No. the QoL indicators are politicized and silly, and not reflective of actualy QoL.
You find them silly because they don't fit to your personal views.
Politicized by whom? Is it a coincidence that almost all studies always rank Canada over the US even if they were done in Europe, Asia, America or anywhere else?
Because QoL and Social Progress have nothing do with wealth? Not sure why you find this confusing.
"Better off" is a subjective term. The median Canadian household income is significantly lower than the median U.S. household income. I think few unbiased people would agree that a poorer society is a "better off" society., though, yes, it isn't a completely implausible argument, just odd.
And yet we all know that Canada isn't a poor country though, is it? And it does have a higher quality of life, social progress, peace and contentment in spite of not being as "wealthy" as America purports to be.
"Wealthy" and "Poor" are both subjective terms too and you have just proven my point that the general American attitude towards human values and what it considers wealthy or poor is not the same as the general Canadian attitude.
It's all good, nothing for anyone in either country to be smug about or be getting their knickers in a twist over.
Yes it is a puzzle why a country and government that gets so much criticism from its inhabitants and neighbors would be so attractive to them as an immigration destination
Maybe it’s because so much of that criticism is based on envy, ignorance and prejudice. And everybody knows it.
Maybe it’s because so much of that criticism is based on envy, ignorance and prejudice. And everybody knows it.
Quite right, Yeledaf.
The Canadian inferiority complex, avidly displayed many times throughout this thread, is very real, very deep-seated, and has been documented as far back as the 1800s.
Remember that anglo Canada was founded by the losers of the American Revolution, who have been forced to live in the least habitable strip of land in the western hemisphere, along the northern states of Michigan, Washington, and so on.
The wrong side was chosen and it's hard not to stare into the neighbors window and jealously search for any faults that may boost a tattered self-esteem.
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You find them silly because they don't fit to your personal views.
Politicized by whom? Is it a coincidence that almost all studies always rank Canada over the US even if they were done in Europe, Asia, America or anywhere else?
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"Wealthy" and "Poor" are both subjective terms too and you have just proven my point that the general American attitude towards human values and what it considers wealthy or poor is not the same as the general Canadian attitude.
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Even more subjective than wealthy and poor are terms like "quality of life".
Money and hard numbers are truly measurable, the social sciences are not.
Yes it is a puzzle why a country and government that gets so much criticism from its inhabitants and neighbors would be so attractive to them as an immigration destination
Not really. The U.S. has huge issues, starting with a certain disaster in the White House, but that doesn't mean it isn't, generally speaking, a better place to live for most (not all) families, all things equal.
You find them silly because they don't fit to your personal views.
You're right. But I think my personal views reflect those of most. Most people consider QoL to reflect their personal prosperity, and don't believe QoL reflects issues like "does everyone make the same salary and have the same healthcare". The U.S., overall, is more prosperous than Canada, so has higher QoL
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Politicized by whom? Is it a coincidence that almost all studies always rank Canada over the US even if they were done in Europe, Asia, America or anywhere else?
No, it makes perfect sense. Those studies don't measure prosperity, they measure things like equality and access to healthcare. Canada does much better on those things, obviously. Scandanavian countries do even better. But most people would laugh if you asked if, all things equal, they preferred to live in the U.S. or Denmark.
. The U.S., overall, is more prosperous than Canada, so has higher QoL
Again, it is not what you or your acquaintances think.
My nephew believes Santa Claus is real, does that make it true?
Unless you bring sources showing that the Quality of Life is better in the US there is no point in continuing this conversation.
I can bring you dozens of links and studies showing otherwise.
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