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Old 01-18-2014, 04:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Luvncsunshine View Post
Not buying this, but thank you for the information. Will check for myself and will apologize to you specifically if appropriate.
Well, I volunteered at MR middle for the lasst 3 years, I had 3 kids the first year in middle school and 2 the last two years.

The current 7th grade class is HUGE they are the biggest class the school has seen. Yes there are trailers, and they are okay the problem comes when a child needs to come into the building whether to go the bathroom or to see the nurse etc. All the oustide doors are locked so the kids have to walk up from the trailers into the front of the building.


I don't understand why the trailers do not have bathrooms, they did in Michigan where we moved from.

Yes the kids are 2 to a half locker this started last year, and with the size of the classes there is not much end in site.

They post earlier did not mention that starting last year lunch was made shorter to accomodate all the kids, each grade was split into 2 lunches so they have 6 lunch times at the middle school, followed by 6 "recess" times

And yes there are 40+ kids in classrooms same with the high school. I have 3 at the high school this year and many of their classes have 39 or more and one teacher. It was one teacher at the middle school level too.

So yes, go out and research the crowded MRMS. Why would you question if this was even true, it has been posted here in other threads LONG before redistricting was mentioned.

 
Old 01-18-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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The last thing I'll say tonight is this... I said months ago that this wasn't really about enrollment. It's about $'s and test scores. I still stand by that and believe that as a community we can prove that to be the unquestionable motivation.
Would this be illegal even if it was true? Besides, shouldn't the cost be a major concern anyway? I think someone mentioned earlier that if they get the overall scores up they would be eligible for additional funding or something? Isn't that a good thing as that could then be used for issues such as the roof at Sun Valley?

People like to make generalizations like "Union County is full of great schools" when obviously this thread shows that a lot of people disagree with that. But in the end if the redistricting helps bring up the scores of the average and below average schools then overall it could be good for the county. Sure the growth might slow a bit in the NW portion but as has been said that might not be a bad thing. But it also might give people more inventive to buy in some of the other areas (plus if the rest of the scores are better if might reduce the backlash when the next redistricting happens).

Along those lines, most of the backlash over this is because of the same reasons you are accusing the BOE of using anyway. A large majority of what people seem to be saying is "don't move my kid from a school with high test scores to a school with low test scores." And yet as has been said by others I have yet to see a viable alternative. The one main Facebook page's recommendation is "wait til next year" (most likely when the page's creator's child would be graduated or something). Really? That's the best you've got?
 
Old 01-18-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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Well, I volunteered at MR middle for the lasst 3 years, I had 3 kids the first year in middle school and 2 the last two years.

The current 7th grade class is HUGE they are the biggest class the school has seen. Yes there are trailers, and they are okay the problem comes when a child needs to come into the building whether to go the bathroom or to see the nurse etc. All the oustide doors are locked so the kids have to walk up from the trailers into the front of the building.


I don't understand why the trailers do not have bathrooms, they did in Michigan where we moved from.

Yes the kids are 2 to a half locker this started last year, and with the size of the classes there is not much end in site.

They post earlier did not mention that starting last year lunch was made shorter to accomodate all the kids, each grade was split into 2 lunches so they have 6 lunch times at the middle school, followed by 6 "recess" times

And yes there are 40+ kids in classrooms same with the high school. I have 3 at the high school this year and many of their classes have 39 or more and one teacher. It was one teacher at the middle school level too.

So yes, go out and research the crowded MRMS. Why would you question if this was even true, it has been posted here in other threads LONG before redistricting was mentioned.
As a teacher (but not in Union), class sizes this large are not in the best interests of the students, esp. at the middle school level. I teach high school and have had classes of 42 and it was miserable. These were 9th-grade honors students, so good kids for the most part,. But it's hard to give anyone individual attention at those numbers, and a physically packed classroom means they are stuck in their seats the ENTIRE period as there is no room for group work or getting up and moving around to do fun, but educational activities. Fire or emergency drills, forget it! Took them forever to get out of the room. Also, there are never enough computers in a lab to accommodate that many kids so it becomes difficult to do the ancillary projects you can do with smaller classes.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 06:31 AM
 
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As a teacher (but not in Union), class sizes this large are not in the best interests of the students, esp. at the middle school level. I teach high school and have had classes of 42 and it was miserable. These were 9th-grade honors students, so good kids for the most part,. But it's hard to give anyone individual attention at those numbers, and a physically packed classroom means they are stuck in their seats the ENTIRE period as there is no room for group work or getting up and moving around to do fun, but educational activities. Fire or emergency drills, forget it! Took them forever to get out of the room. Also, there are never enough computers in a lab to accommodate that many kids so it becomes difficult to do the ancillary projects you can do with smaller classes.
Yes, fortunately they all have a school assigned computer they take with them throughout the day
 
Old 01-18-2014, 06:54 AM
 
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From 2012...This can't be true! How could a Parkwood student accomplish this? LOL...

I only hope that the arrogance displayed by some of the posters to this thread is not passed on to their children. If so, it could be a tough experience in their new school.... I would not want my children uprooted either, but it would not be because I thought they were "better" than the children of the new school, or that our family was more affluent than those families of the new school. Whether intended or not, that is the theme of this thread. It is sickening to see that some adults actually believe in this way.

BTW, there are families in the Piedmont, Forest Hills and Parkwood districts that have more wealth than many of you will ever know. In fact, I bet that you unknowingly support them daily!

Parkwood High student gets perfect score on ACT
 
Old 01-18-2014, 07:21 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF78...&feature=share
 
Old 01-18-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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The majority of the Union County population is against redistricting... this board is probably the very worst place to come for accurate information. There are 3-4 posters, it's obvious who they are, that are either board members, UCPS facilities employees, or are just big fans of 'government knows best' and blindly follow the propaganda machine.

This isn't over and if we stick together we can beat it...

  • Several months ago I posted that the new maps were coming and I was told I was just spreading rumors
  • As recent as 10 days ago I said Millbridge was at risk and was told I was just spreading rumors
  • A week ago I said that Wesley Oaks was in the same boat as Millbridge and I was told I was just spreading rumors
I stated all of those things as facts and as it turns out... well, they were true. I don't have all of the 2008 meeting minutes and I don't know all of the board members. But, I do have enough contacts inside UCPS to have been in the know on a few things and to know that it's not a done deal.

The last thing I'll say tonight is this... I said months ago that this wasn't really about enrollment. It's about $'s and test scores. I still stand by that and believe that as a community we can prove that to be the unquestionable motivation.
May we add a few? Concerned parents who do NOT blindly follow anything but are realists about certain situations and try to see the big picture based on facts and numbers and patterns. There are also the "know it alls" and "those in it for themselves" and yes, its obvious who they are as well. I might add that Millbridge and Wesley Oaks are border neighborhoods, so its reasonable to say that my 5th grade son could have figured out that they may be "at risk" for moving. And I assure you he has no inside sources on the school board. I personally HAVE found sound helpful information on this thread, as well as some pseudo-hunger games entertainment as well. And for the record not ALL parents are against redistricting. I think it makes total sense for the most part AT TIMES and I truly don't see it as the end of the world. Anytime there is major change the majority of folks completely panic and think the worst. It shall be the ones who remain calm, eyes open, rational brain processing, that will come out ahead in this situation. And just because there are those of us that try to see the big picture - the ones that takes into consideration the county as a whole (not just our own kids and our own bank accounts) - well, that does not make us "blind followers" as you seem to believe
 
Old 01-18-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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From 2012...This can't be true! How could a Parkwood student accomplish this? LOL...

I only hope that the arrogance displayed by some of the posters to this thread is not passed on to their children. If so, it could be a tough experience in their new school.... I would not want my children uprooted either, but it would not be because I thought they were "better" than the children of the new school, or that our family was more affluent than those families of the new school. Whether intended or not, that is the theme of this thread. It is sickening to see that some adults actually believe in this way.

BTW, there are families in the Piedmont, Forest Hills and Parkwood districts that have more wealth than many of you will ever know. In fact, I bet that you unknowingly support them daily!

Parkwood High student gets perfect score on ACT

I saw this the other day and it made me smile In my experience, the wealthy people who are boastful and arrogant aren't nearly are wealthy as some may believe. My brother is a locksmith and he will tell you that they are the ones NOTORIOUS for having their credit cards declined ;-) I believe that the quiet, more humble folks with wealth aren't about letting everyone else know. So you betcha there is plenty of money out in those areas. They just don't flaunt it.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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With all do respect, have you BEEN to any of the capped schools? They are Kensington Elementary, Marvin Ridge Middle, and Porter Ridge Middle. And YES, that is what happens when a school is at 120% capacity. Why does that sound so unreasonable to you? If anything it should open your eyes a bit! Schools aren't capped just for kicks and giggles. To say that you are "not buying this" only affirms that you are ignorant to the situation and truly do need to "check for yourself" before making insinuations and judgments about other schools. I believe you were the one who mentioned that Marvin Ridge and Cuthbertson may be too good for trailers? That these schools would prefer to load "your" school up with trailers instead? W-O-W is all I can say. Please do, check for yourself. We'd appreciate it.
I don't feel that I was disrespectful by simply saying that the information does not sound right to me, so mod cut Hearsay and anecdotes are not data. And although I've admittedly not found a reliable source for student/teacher ratios in the county, sites like greatschools boast an 18:1 ratio, even at these severely and hazardously overcrowded schools. If anyone knows where I can obtain actual data rather than telling me to go to the school myself and take a head count, I'd be interested in reviewing. With all DUE respect, Waxhawmom, I'd like to see data. Not sure why this upsets you to such a degree.

I asked whether or not the middle and high schools at MR and Cuth have trailers. According to everyone, the middle schools do. I accept that. Do the high schools currently have them?

Last edited by SunnyKayak; 01-18-2014 at 09:10 AM.. Reason: stay civil please
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:12 AM
 
Location: South Charlotte
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Default Looking for information on each neighborhood. Please

I am in a huge rush, but need a HUGE favor.. please...

I believe I recall seeing a post here that listed every neighborhood in Union County and how they will be effected by the redictricting plan.

I cannot find that information.

Can someone please direct me to that post or link that information again?

Thanks
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