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"Always the same old demons!! "get thee behind me satan!! Move!! Go from whence you came!! Move over! "BACK"!! I-rebuke-you in-the name-of-Jesus Christ!!
Yes, the doctrine of demons that think Gods love is separate from other things he does.
Humans can begin to believe they actually love like God, so they are fooled into believing they know what it feels like and therefor associate their false teachings with it.
Concerning Satan's cosmic system, Dr. Lewis Sperry Chafer, in his 'Sytematic Theology' volume 2, pages 100-101, wrote...
''Next to the lie itself, the greatest delusion Satan imposes---is the supposition that only such things as society considers evil could originate with the devil---if, indeed, there be any devil to originate anything. It is not the reason of man, but the revelation of God, which points out that governments, morals, education, art, commercialism, vast enterprises and organizations, and much of religious activity are included in the cosmos diabolicus. That is, the system which Satan has constructed includes all the good which he can incorporate into it and be consistent in the thing he aims to accomplish. A serious question arises whether the presence of gross evil in the world is due to Satan's intention to have it so, or whether it indicates Satan's inability to execute all he has designed. The probability is great that Satan's ambition has led him to undertake more than any creature could ever administer. Revelation declares that the whole cosmos-system must be annihilated---not its evil alone, but all that is in it, both good and bad. God will incorporate nothing of Satan's failure into that kingdom which He will set up in the earth.''
Satan's cosmic system with its doctrines of demons, reaches into every aspect of human experience. Apart from doctrinal inculcation of the word of God, man is held captive to Satanic schemes and deceptions.
It is not coincidental that those Jews (and people today) who seem to question Jesus, said that he was preaching demonic teaching. What did Jesus say that was considered demonic....?
"You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins."
"Who are you?" they asked.
"Just what I have been claiming all along," Jesus replied. "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
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This exchange is recorded only in John's Gospel, which is very significant. Significant in that John's gospel focuses on Jesus being God and yet at the same time with God (John 1:1).
Jesus was declaring that he was God when he said: "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world"
Translated ...You are human, I am God. You are the creation; I am the creator.
**We know this was what Jesus was referring to because other times the Jews said: "Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Matthew 13:55**
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v v But the "demonic" charge about Jesus came when he said this: v v
"I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins.".. "I have much to say in judgment of you." But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
Translated On several occasions ..
I told you you will go to hell when you die IF and I do mean IF you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be before you die.
You will ... not might be, or for a while ..but indeed go to hell for your unbelief...period, end of story.
You have't heard anything yet.. I have much to say in judgment of you....but my time is not yet to do that.
You think I'm not serious ... think again. (oh just a side note .. I'm going to switch gears on ya) God who sent me (humanly speaking) is reliable, and I heard it personally. And what he said isn't just for you, but like my other message of salvation, I'm letting the world know also. There is only God's wrath ... IF you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be before you die
It is not coincidental that those Jews (and people today) who seem to question Jesus, said that he was preaching demonic teaching. What did Jesus say that was considered demonic....?
"You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins."
"Who are you?" they asked.
"Just what I have been claiming all along," Jesus replied. "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
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This exchange is recorded only in John's Gospel, which is very significant. Significant in that John's gospel focuses on Jesus being God and yet at the same time with God (John 1:1).
Jesus was declaring that he was God when he said: "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world"
Translated ...You are human, I am God. You are the creation; I am the creator.
**We know this was what Jesus was referring to because other times the Jews said: "Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Matthew 13:55**
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v v But the "demonic" charge about Jesus came when he said this: v v
"I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins.".. "I have much to say in judgment of you." But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
Translated On several occasions ..
I told you you will go to hell when you die IF and I do mean IF you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be before you die.
You will ... not might be, or for a while ..but indeed go to hell for your unbelief...period, end of story.
You have't heard anything yet.. I have much to say in judgment of you....but my time is not yet to do that.
You think I'm not serious ... think again. (oh just a side note .. I'm going to switch gears on ya) God who sent me (humanly speaking) is reliable, and I heard it personally. And what he said isn't just for you, but like my other message of salvation, I'm letting the world know also. There is only God's wrath ... IF you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be before you die
Sound familier?
Why is it necessary to add to the scriptures in order to communicate your belief in the myth of hell?
Christ said that they would die in their sins, which you then claim means that they will go to everlasting hell ... Of course that is a massive leap of logic, one based on mistranslations of other scriptures and ignoring the message of many more.
There is no hell in the traditional Christian sense of the word. Hell means grave, that is all hell is ... Those who die in their sins will face the baptism of fire ...
The fate of the wicked servants and that of unbelievers is the same ... They will suffer loss, yet they will be saved as passing through the fire ...
Why is it necessary to add to the scriptures in order to communicate your belief in the myth of hell?
Jesus answers that in the same confrontation to those who oppose him which he now tells the world:
John 8:43-45 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say....You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
Very harsh words from Jesus, but factually the truth.
Satan's cosmic system with its doctrines of demons, reaches into every aspect of human experience. Because of the doctrinal inculcation of the "precepts and doctrines of men" that were corrupted while we were still largely primitive and ignorant, man is held captive to Satanic schemes and deceptions by religious exploiters for their worldly benefit. The Living Word of God Jesus Christ is ignored and His nature is blasphemed with the fear-ridden beliefs under the veil of human ignorance . . . which is perpetuated as a virtue in the beliefs in myths.
The past 2000+ years has BEEN the "LatterDays" during which the word of God has been corrupted and the anti-Christ already reigns supreme in mainstream Christianity. We UR's are the few who remain true to Christ's teaching and example of "Love of God and each other."
Jesus answers that in the same confrontation to those who oppose him which he now tells the world:
John 8:43-45 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say....You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
Very harsh words from Jesus, but factually the truth.
Lets break that passage down ... Jesus asks them why his language is not clear to them, and answers that because they are incapable of understanding what he was saying. These men for whom he prayed, while hanging from the cross, that the father forgive them because they "did not know what they were doing", because " they could not understand what he was saying". These same men of whom Paul wrote ... "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes" ...
These people who are enemies of the gospel for the sake of the household of faith, who murdered Christ and to whom Christ said, "you belong to your father the devil", and , "You want to carry out your fathers desires", were blinded by God. Jesus Spoke to them in parables for the very reason that they should hear him speak and not understand, lest they should turn and repent.
Mat. 13:11-13
The knowledge of the secrets of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. This is why I speak to them in parables, ‘Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand
What did Jesus mean when he said that the pharisees where of their father the devil? In the same regard what did Christ mean when he called Peter Satan and commanded him to "get behind me"? ...
In both instances Christ is making a symbolic reference, that is to say he was making reference to the fact that they were acting on their carnal instincts/desires, and not by the spirit of God.
What did Christ mean when he said that the pharisees wanted to "carry out their fathers desire"? ... Who is the devil? He is the accuser, he is the enemy of mankind, the deceiver, and the destroyer.
What is the desire of the accuser, but to stand in accusation and condemnation over the whole creation?
What is the desire of the enemy of humanity, but the enslavement to the bondage of the fear of death?
What is the desire of the deceiver, but to deceive the world into believing that God is the real enemy, the one who is really planning on destroying and condemning most of the creation to everlasting cruelty? ...
What is the desire of the destroyer, but the destruction of our ability to love and forgive one another. The destroyer wants to break humanity apart into warring factions and dissenting rivalries. The destroyer want to set the creation against itself through politics and business and religion. The destroyer wants to destroy the love of one person for the other, it wants to destroy our common resolve.
Satan's cosmic system with its doctrines of demons, reaches into every aspect of human experience. Because of the doctrinal inculcation of the "precepts and doctrines of men" that were corrupted while we were still largely primitive and ignorant, man is held captive to Satanic schemes and deceptions by religious exploiters for their worldly benefit. The Living Word of God Jesus Christ is ignored and His nature is blasphemed with the fear-ridden beliefs under the veil of human ignorance . . . which is perpetuated as a virtue in the beliefs in myths.
The past 2000+ years has BEEN the "LatterDays" during which the word of God has been corrupted and the anti-Christ already reigns supreme in mainstream Christianity. We UR's are the few who remain true to Christ's teaching and example of "Love of God and each other."
Yes, the doctrine under Satan's cosmic system was loss of freedom and bondage back into the religions that Jesus came to set us free from. Can you marry? Can you eat this food or that food? All nonsense. More bondage. More confusion.
I Timothy 4:3. They (doctrines of demons) forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
The darkness likes to keep people in fear. It feeds on it. And it makes plenty of people around the world wealthy.
The Bible is God's complete and connected message to man regarding what He saw fit to communicate to man. It is the absolute norm and standard by which the believer in Christ is to live his life. Ignorance of the word of God guarantees failure in the spiritual life and causes the believer to be a loser believer. Eternally saved, but without the blessings and rewards that God intends for him to have.Those believers (and that is most believers) remain ignorant of Bible doctrine and susceptible to indoctrination of cosmic doctrines of demons.
I tried to rep you, but wasn't allowed.
Brother Mik555, it's okay, forget the reps. The angels rejoicing when another soul makes it in, it's more than enough! The truth shall abound, amen?
Yes, the doctrine under Satan's cosmic system was loss of freedom and bondage back into the religions that Jesus came to set us free from. Can you marry? Can you eat this food or that food? All nonsense. More bondage. More confusion.
I Timothy 4:3. They (doctrines of demons) forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
The darkness likes to keep people in fear. It feeds on it. And it makes plenty of people around the world wealthy.
The council of Elvira in the fourth century declared that all the clergy should not marry or if already married refrain from intercourse and child bearing. It was later further ratified by another decree in 390 CE during the council of Carthage ...
Who are the ones who had come into the church teaching to abstain from marriage? In the fourth century Christianity had been completely sabotaged from within until it finally became the religion of the state and completely incorporated into the secular government. Do you know who the god of this world is? Do you know who is the King of all the governments in this world at this time is? Satan ... And during the fourth century, Satan had taken control of Christianity. And then came all the heresies and false doctrines at the same time, such as ET, which until that time was the fringe doctrine held by a small minority of Christians who were based in Carthage and in Rome of all places, Latin speaking Christians in the west far removed from the first seven churches in Asia, who had very little understanding of the Koine Greek mind you.
Go figure ...
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