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Likewise, can God teach us a full understanding of love without teaching us what forgiveness, compassion, patience, and protection is?
Right, how would we develop those qualiites, along with persistence, faith, trust, hatred of sin, love for righteousness, even know Him as our Savior, know of the nature of His love for us. We are also to love like that, love our enemies, those that do wrong to us.
Did God create "2+2=4"? No. 2+2=4 is a truth, which is self-existant.
Legoman, I am not sure I am following this though because God designed everything, all truths to me come from Him. He is the origin of the laws that operate and exist in the creation, all truths, the reality and so on, right? God bless and peace.
Right, how would we develop those qualiites, along with persistence, faith, trust, hatred of sin, love for righteousness, even know Him as our Savior, know of the nature of His love for us. We are also to love like that, love our enemies, those that sin against us.
God bless.
Shana
We become what we look upon and desire.
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will
When I understood that what I dwell upon I become, I work towards and practise thinking on what is noble,right, pure and lovely. There is absolutely no need to know evil to know good. In my opinion you cannot look upon Jesus Christ and not understand and know all that is good. So I cannot interpret scripture any other way than by His Life.
I understand if you do not want to reply, because of the going round in circles thing,it's not a problem to me.
What about these qualities that were shared, pcamps?
Likewise, can God teach us a full understanding of love without teaching us what forgiveness, compassion, patience, and protection is?
How would we develop those qualiites that Legoman shared, along with persistence, faith, trust, hatred of sin, love for righteousness, even know Him as our Savior, know of the nature of His love for us. We are also to love like that, love our enemies, those that do wrong to us.
Do you agree that God planted the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden?
Legoman, I am not sure I am following this though because God designed everything, all truths to me come from Him. He is the origin of the laws that operate and exist in the creation, all truths, the reality and so on, right? God bless and peace.
Shana, consider my "food for thought" post above.
Did God design/originate/create "2+2=4"?
I don't believe He did. I believe it is intrinsic to truth.
Could God have instead designed/created "2+2=3"?
I don't believe He could have. That would be a lie. And an impossibility.
Its easy to show with math; it is very easy to prove that 2+2=3 is a lie.
Therefore God could not make 2+2=3.
And in fact there is no reason for God to even "create" 2+2=4.
2+2=4 simply is.
It is self-existent.
The truth is not created, it simply is.
Consider this. If God had not created the universe, would 2+2=4 still be true? YES. It is independent of the universe.
Just my current thoughts on the matter.
Yes God did originate the laws of this universe, but the question is, is there any other way it could have been done? Perhaps the laws are intrinsic to truth as well.
At a certain point we may come to the conclusion that God=truth and therefore this universe is the way it is because this is the only way it could be. Anything else would be a lie and would be therefore be an impossibility. No way that 2+2=3.
I'm a bit rushed, I can comment more later, but hope that made sense.
When I understood that what I dwell upon I become, I work towards and practise thinking on what is noble,right, pure and lovely.
That is good pcamps, but we know what is noble, right, pure, and lovely because we know the contrast with what is not. We grow up learning right from wrong. We don't learn what is right in vacuum. Somewhere along the way I learned to desire what is good over that which is not good. I dwell on what is noble and lovely because I know/understand the effects of dwelling on what is not noble and lovely. And I know the effects of dwelling on nothing. I have learned that one way is good and the other way is not. God bless and peace.
Let me chew on it for awhile, Legoman. Thanks and God bless.
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