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PS There is no love in telling people what to say or not say.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
Go ahead then. Tell people to shut up if you think it's a loving thing to do
I forgot I was speaking to a "universalist agape lover", who tend to express their love with insults, accusations, judgment and by telling others to shut up.
Your post which I responded to didn't say anything about telling people to "shut up". Personally, I try not to use that term and when I have used it, I haven't felt it was a very loving thing to do because I was speaking in anger, rather than out of a desire to help.
I don't run around telling people to shut up, but I do wish people would stop using that worn out phrase. It's not nice.
I have a few gay people in my church and in my life, and I care about them. To hear people condemn and sneer at them for who they are and pretend to hide behind Christ to spew their hatred does make me angry.
I don't run around telling people to shut up, but I do wish people would stop using that worn out phrase. It's not nice.
I have a few gay people in my church and in my life, and I care about them. To hear people condemn and sneer at them for who they are and pretend to hide behind Christ to spew their hatred does make me angry.
It was obvious from the context of what you were posting that you were simply making a point. You weren't telling an individual to shut up. There's a big difference.
We are not even to eat with a person who commits sin yet calls themselves a brother/christian. This does not apply to the whole world, because it is not our place to judge those outside the church, God judges them, but only to those in the church.
We are to call out sin because if we do not, we may be held accountable for it. The sinners blood may end up being on our hands if we do not speak truth, if we do not speak truth to some, that is the opposite of loving them. Another commandment we are to observe, love our neighbor as ourselves
Yes, we are qualified to judge sin because all in Christ have themselves ceased from committing sin willfully.
This is why Christ condmened sin in the flesh, so that we would be freed from its influence and not be under the dominion of sin any longer.
Those who sin and are in the church, must be kicked out of the church for they are not in Christ
It's going to be a very empty church. How long will you still be there?
It was obvious from the context of what you were posting that you were simply making a point. You weren't telling an individual to shut up. There's a big difference.
It's going to be a very empty church. How long will you still be there?
It won't be a 'mega-church', but it will be a real church. It may not be full of people initially but it will be full of the Holy Spirit which will lead people to repentance, turning from sin, the Spirit, love and life.
Anyways, it is what God tells us in His word to do
I don't use it knowing its from Gandhi, but I don't think it is offensive at all. You should love the sinner regardless of their sins.
It's not offensive in and of itself, but it's often misused as a covering to spew hatred, most often for gay people.
Do most people who believe gay people are an abomination but claim to love them ever invite any such people to their homes for a meal? Bring them soup when they are sick? Comfort them when they are grieving?
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