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Old 06-02-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Whatever. Same to you

Victimhood is a cornerstone of the gay agenda. This is a fact. Heck, we have 7500 posts dedicated to promoting the idea that gays are victims of the evil Bible believing Christians.
They are, it's a fact that you choose to ignore. Also, here lies the problem, Jesus never said believe the bible, he said believe him. So what does this mean?. Be Jesus to the homosexual, a concept that a bible bashing fundy can never grasp.

 
Old 06-02-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Victimhood is a cornerstone of the gay agenda. This is a fact. Heck, we have 7500 posts dedicated to promoting the idea that gays are victims of the evil Bible believing Christians.
How do they harm or injure you, Mr. Jarber?
 
Old 06-02-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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You don't know our walk with the Lord so how can you say that our spirit is wrong based solely on some internet posts? That is pompous, arrogant and baseless judgement. You don't even point out exactly what you disagree in the video.
Your words on this thread in reference to discriminating against others speaks volumes, and the only thing that is arrogant or baseless are your judgements. If you see yourself as a sinner, then you should work on that, not on what you perceive as sin in others.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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It is sad and disgraceful to see people here claiming to be born again believers yet are promoting and encouraging this sin. I wanted to see what Andrew Wommack had to say on the topic and wow, his short video speaks the truth more than I have here. Leviticus 19:17 says we should not hate our neighbor, but if you don't rebuke their sin, you share in their guilt. If you stay idlely by and say nothing about their sin, that is not love, it's hate! Christians who say they just want to love homosexuals and encourage them are caring more about their own pride and ego. That's what I see here is this thread. Lots of grand standing. Look at me. Look how I am so much better than those awful bigoted hateful fundies!!! The gay agenda even wants us to believe that homosexuals are more important than any other group out there.
Well here is Leviticus 19:18
"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD."


Where does it state that if you don't rebuke their sin you share in their guilt?

I'm sorry but the rest of us don't have the jeffie bible of finger-pointing.

Right now, because of the power of evangelicals politically speaking, the gay "group" IS more important than any other group out there--particularly bibliolators.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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Not sure if it is a lack of honesty or knowledge going on here , but in terms of per-capita numbers the most virulently anti-homosexual Christian group is actually very liberal in every other social respect .
They are the African American Christians .
Anybody with half a clue knows this .
No paltry amount of " Westboro " or " Josh Duggar " " right wingers " ( cue the white men ), who make California their home could have ever defeated a state wide referendum calling for gay marriage .
No way .
Yet Californians defeated gay marriage referendum not once , not twice , but three times !
HELLO!
Until the court stepped in and said enough with these bitter , hateful , homophobic , African Americans
Although they never actually said any such thing but took the deceptive dishonest , or maybe just ignorant tact of this thread , implying is was the vast contingent of old bitter white male Westboro members that make up the majority of California's population which defeated gay referendum 3 times . lol
View any predominantly African American church homepage / website and start looking for homosexual accepting views . Not only will not find any you will not even find ongoing debate about gay marriage or gay pastors like you will in predominantly white churches .
The author of this thread needs to get out more .
 
Old 06-02-2019, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Not sure if it is a lack of honesty or knowledge going on here , but in terms of per-capita numbers the most virulently anti-homosexual Christian group is actually very liberal in every other social respect .
They are the African American Christians .

Anybody with half a clue knows this .
No paltry amount of " Westboro " or " Josh Duggar " " right wingers " ( cue the white men ), who make California their home could have ever defeated a state wide referendum calling for gay marriage .
No way .
Yet Californians defeated gay marriage referendum not once , not twice , but three times !
HELLO!
Until the court stepped in and said enough with these bitter , hateful , homophobic , African Americans
Although they never actually said any such thing but took the deceptive dishonest , or maybe just ignorant tact of this thread , implying is was the vast contingent of old bitter white male Westboro members that make up the majority of California's population which defeated gay referendum 3 times . lol
Hmmm, could it be they take a page from the text of the early Hebrews, who, set free by God, still wanted to engage in pagan idolatry?
The "gay" referendum appears to have the support of thinking Americans--if that is "marriage" you are speaking of:

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Sixty percent of those polled say they support same-sex marriage, which is up from 59 percent in 2015 and 53 percent in 2013. Thirty-three percent say they oppose same-sex marriage, with the remaining respondents saying either it “depends” or they are “not sure.”

Among the groups that showed the highest percentage of support were Northeasterners, young adults, Democrats, non-religious people and those with postgraduate degrees.
The groups that showed the highest level of opposition include Trump supporters, religious people, those living in rural areas and people over 65.
By group:
Gender
Men: 61%
Women: 59%
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Age
18-34: 75%
35-49: 60%
50-64: 55%
65+: 42%
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...-finds-n799376
 
Old 06-02-2019, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Whatever. Same to you

Victimhood is a cornerstone of the gay agenda. This is a fact. Heck, we have 7500 posts dedicated to promoting the idea that gays are victims of the evil Bible believing Christians.
Would you like some more videos of bible-believing "christians" calling for the execution of gays? Where is your video of gays calling for the execution of so-called "bible-believers?"

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Phillip Kayser is among the several speakers joining Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz and Bobby Jindal at the National Religious Liberties Conference in Iowa this weekend, and as we’ve reported, he, along with the conference’s chief organizer, Kevin Swanson, has called on the government to execute gay people. Kayser’s views are so extreme that back in the 2012 election, Ron Paul’s campaign tried to cover up his endorsement.
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He writes that government officials are “subject to Biblical statutes and judgments,” claiming that “Christians should advocate the full implementation of all God’s civil penalties in every age…. Every Old Testament statue continues on the books, and without those statutes, we could not have a consistent ethnical standard.” Even “pagan” nations are obliged to follow biblical law, he writes, as “God held gentile kings accountable to these civil laws.”
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Kayser writes that “natural knowledge” endorses the view that homosexuality is “worthy of death.”
“It is not just the sinfulness of homosexuality that is known, but also the justice of the death penalty for homosexuality,” he said. “The reason men have an innate sense of justice is because God’s law reflects not only His holiness but also His justice and goodness (Rom. 7:12). Romans 13 says that magistrates are subject to all three.”

And remember, this is the kind of literature being promoted at a “religious liberty” conference.
'Death Penalty For Gays' Literature At Right-Wing Conference | Right Wing Watch

You may not personally believe they should be executed, but you definitely stand at the door of that camp.

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Many in Germany regarded the Weimar Republic’s toleration of homosexuals as a sign of Germany’s decadence. The Nazis posed as moral crusaders who wanted to stamp out the “vice” of homosexuality from Germany…
Because some Nazis believed homosexuality was a sickness that could be cured, they designed policies to “cure” homosexuals of their “disease” through humiliation and hard work. [sounds just like modern-day evangelical conversion therapy concentration camps, eh?]
Thousands of gay people died in concentration camps under Nazi rule.
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2017/11...christmas-day/
How Third Reich of you!

QUACK!!! QUACK!!!

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Old 06-02-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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I am shocked .That's a lot of African Americans againest gay people's civil rights. I am too old. FYI, they did not discriminate that much in the pre and post sixties. Is this recent? WE ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED UNTO OUR HOLY GOD.

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Old 06-02-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden View Post
Well here is Leviticus 19:18
"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD."


Where does it state that if you don't rebuke their sin you share in their guilt?

I'm sorry but the rest of us don't have the jeffie bible of finger-pointing.

Right now, because of the power of evangelicals politically speaking, the gay "group" IS more important than any other group out there--particularly bibliolators
.
We cannot allow or tolerate any form of bigotry towards homosexuals from any group, religious or none religious. Hasn't this country learnt from its past in the shameful way racism was tolerated?.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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They are, it's a fact that you choose to ignore. Also, here lies the problem, Jesus never said believe the bible, he said believe him. So what does this mean?. Be Jesus to the homosexual, a concept that a bible bashing fundy can never grasp.
Amen.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
Your words on this thread in reference to discriminating against others speaks volumes, and the only thing that is arrogant or baseless are your judgements. If you see yourself as a sinner, then you should work on that, not on what you perceive as sin in others.
And Amen again.
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